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Best of luck, Dangerman, and I am sorry for your loss.

it is a great blessing that you were able to be there for him.

Sorry for your loss, Dangerman.

My condolences, Dangerman.

At least it was peaceful and he was surrounded by family. That's the way to do it.

When my mom died, my dad and brother and I were taking turns sitting up with her at the hospital through the evening. My "shift" ended at 3:00 a.m. and I went home to sleep and my dad took over. When I got home, I had a message on my machine from my dad that Mom had died at 3:15 a.m. I didn't like that.

But anyway, I feel for you. However, it was good that you were able to be there for him. Although that doesn't really make it any easier.

Take care.

My condolences, Dangerman.

My condolences DangerMan.

The Wine Commonsewer has informed us that NoStar was in a motorcycle accident yesterday which seriously injured him and killed his 12-year-old daughter.

My eyes keep getting all wet when I think about it.

My deepest condolences, Dangerman.

My condolences and sympathy, Dangerman.

The news about NoStar is horrible. Just a few weeks ago he mentioned he'd be spending less time online so he could spend more with his daughter.

Very very sad. I hope No Star gets well soon. All prayers are for his family.

I read that he not only got out of the ICU but is going home from the hospital today (Thursday). That's great, but I'm wondering: It wasn't until this morning that I was able to mail a card to NoStar, as a patient in care of the hospital. So I wonder if he'll even get it now. Or do hospitals normally forward stuff that arrives for patients after they've gone home? Does anybody know?

Nick didn't take his time about it, either. They're already gone.

I'd rip Team America in that thread, but he doesn't deserve that sort of attention, and NoStar deserves better than to have such a thread devolve in to a trolled mess.

Hell, I'd be a little surprised if the Anarchrist said things like that, Jennifer.

Agreed. So say something in support of NoStar instead; if nothing else we can make sure the "We're with you" comments outnumber the "I'm a shit-souled attention-whoring fuckwit" comments by a vast margin.

That's what especially pisses me off about TA's comments. I'm sure poor Bill is shredding himself inside and blaming himself for his daughter's loss, even though it wasn't his fault. It was an accident. TA is a goddamned sadist.

Wow. That's just..awful.

They should just ban him. I seriously doubt reason's cred is going to go down because they banned a person mocking a man who just lost his daughter in a thread that has nothing to do with economics, politics, or whatever.

Thanks for this update, Jennifer. I didn't realize there was another thread up. I'm glad I was able to post another commment in support of NoStar.

But so help me, I couldn't help posting some kind of response to the emotional parasite, too. After Reason deletes all his comments, and blocks him, they can delete mine too, please.

I've sent the following e-mail to H&R:

sigh.

some folk are just sand in the urethra.

I've received a reply from Michael Moynihan and Mike Alissi saying that his IP has been banned.

Well, hell, now H&R will revert back to the sort of echo chamber where everyone thinks making fun of someone's daughter dying is in bad taste.

Does NoStar know about Grylliade? It would be great if we have him here. Aside from our often heated debates, the sense of community and friendship on these forums here is just wonderful (ehem, sometimes ;-) )

Deleted on reconsideration that my joke wasn't very funny.

Now you taunt us with your deleted joke!

Ehn. Okay then.

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. I WILL KILL YOU, YOUR PETS, AND YOUR PLANTS.

I, on the other hand, have no problems with misbotany. Fuckin' plants growing anywhere they goddam please. In sidewalk cracks, up the sides of university buildings, beneath my toenails. What this country needs a good dose of

All of you chloroplast sympathizers can kiss my ass!

Well, I'm on the PPS* blacklist.

*Plant Protection Society

(Or is that their brownlist?)

I stepped out for dinner and it struck me how pervasive misbotany is in our society. It's everywhere -- from the dead trees that we make our buildings and furniture out of, to the dead leaves in our salad bars. It's like we as a society just glorify violence against plants.

Especially men. Surely you've noticed this. There's nothing a group of men like better than to burn a bunch of logs. Or chop down a tree and feed it into a wood chipper.

This is not to be construed as a personal attack against anyone. I know that one of our group used to work as a chipper, to earn money for college. Look, I have no problem with you because you once worked as a chipper. But if people have to do that, do it on the other side of town. I just don't like to see it constantly waved in my face.

I'm pretty sure that after Stevo's last comment posting this is almost obligatory:

The lumberjack sketch from Monty Python.

Since misbotany seems far too lighthearted a topic for a serious thread, please continue the debate here.

Preparations for colonoscopies have to be up near the top of the worst thing ever. I feel like I'm going to die.

You have my sympathy, Shem...I often think how fortunate I am to have been healthy up to this point in my life, seeing as how I take medical procedures so badly. If I had been ill, I would be like the worst patient ever. I've actually unintentionally self-induced medical shock by merely contemplating my fear and loathing of physiology and medical problems. Yeah, I am a freak. Anyway...Good luck. Don't be a pussy like me. :) Everything will be ok.

Yeah, but I'll still walk funny for a couple hours.

Anyway, wish me luck. Endoscopy and colonoscopy tomorrow; probably an ulcer. Hopefully an ulcer; otherwise it's something worse. Sedated, because of the Endoscopy, but still, I just hope they don't use the same camera for both.

Nulytely. Apparently tastes better, but still involves drinking a gallon of fluid in about 2.5 hours. Which I maintain is impossible without throwing up at least some of it.

I've never had an endoscopy but my first colonoscopy several years ago wasn't bad at all. They used industrial strength Valium and I didn't remember a thing nor was I all that out of it afterward. I did, however, get a nice color photo from the doctor along with the "all clear" report. I toyed with using it as our Christmas card photo, but my wife didn't like the idea.

Funny guy. :)

First surgical photos I got were from my artheroscopic surgery on my knee a few years ago. Lovely pink-hued pictures of cartelige and bone. All my Aussie rules and rugby pals seem to have had the procedure done between the ages of twenty-three and thirty-three and said it was a piece of cake. I'm here to tell you, it ain't such a well-leavened cake at fifty-three. However it did get me off the crutches I had been on for six weeks.

Now I have a very nice series of shots of my interior. All I can say is someone needs to hire a new decorator. :)

Man, I wrote like 20 pages of my thesis on hydrocodone. Well, to be frank, I "wrote" 20 pages which I later had to delete. Sometimes I wish I had kept them. It was the closest I ever got to writing like a post-modernist. Hopefully it's the closest I'll ever get. I had one paragraph that was two sentences repeated three times each--randomly (at least I had some consistency).

So, Shem, what's the thesis on? You're doing crisis management, right? A MA only? Seriously, don't push yourself too hard, take a day or so to enjoy the drugs.

Shem, I don't know if I was lucky or if I have phenomenal recuperative powers, but I had absolutely no unpleasant after affects. I was tired and hungry but I had a bland meal (a couple of soft-boiled eggs, I think) a couple of hours afterwords and then a pretty normal meal that night.

if you're anything like my wife, no. maybe later, later, later that night.

Good luck, Shem.

I think I had an endoscopy once, to check out my esophagus. The doc said the anesthetic they'd give me would not necessarily put me out, but it would give me amnesia about the whole event. I remember nothing of the procedure. I have always wondered if it made me say something in appropriate to a nurse, because that's the kind of thing I might do if I was drugged loopy.

Been there. I've been told I've done that. I started counting down from one hundred, then I woke up in my hospital bed. Anesthesiologists are underappreciated and underpaid.

My understanding is that they are, or are nearly, the best paid in the profession. The down side is that they must carry the highes level of insurance, so I'm not sure how well they net.

Oh, I'm sure successful elective surgery types do vastly better. And there's a huge malpractice risk. I don't know what the situation is now, but it was the case a while back that anesthesiologists couldn't get malpractice insurance at all, that it would only be issued to and through the hospital. Of course, then again, that sorta just makes sense since there's very little, um, legal call for out-patient general anesthesia.

A double blow to my understanding!

Take that!

In my defense, this would have been almost twenty years ago that I heard that . . . .

Has it been that long? Yes it has.
*kicks pebble, throws out hip, crashes to the ground*
Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!

Only now catching up? I kind of assumed they were already up there.

I mean it seems like it would be far easier to rationalize and accept, "Oh, the medical procedure didn't seem to work for me" versus "The medical procedure didn't seem to work out for my baby."

Of course, my wife's words to me shortly before going in for her C-sections both times (not elective in her case) were something to the effect of: "If I die, sue them out of existence and then blow up the hospital."