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2008, August 7 - 16:35 — J sub D

Magazine publisher Levant wins Danish cartoon dispute

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2008, August 7 - 17:44 — fyodor
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After a year-long investigation

I wonder what the hell they were "investigating"???

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2008, August 7 - 18:51 — Shem
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The best way to squeeze money from the government?

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2008, August 7 - 18:55 — D.A. Ridgely
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Thanks for the info, J sub D. I had blogged about Levant back in January and have now posted an update here.

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2008, August 7 - 22:16 — Aresen
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Damn! Just when I had the torchlight parade and book-burning rally all planned! ;^)

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2008, August 8 - 08:49 — Ali
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I wonder when the government will exercise its powers in defense of free speech in Quebec.

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2008, August 8 - 11:08 — Warren
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BAH! The Canucks simply don't get it. They believe in free speech as long as you don't abuse it by saying something that someone else doesn't like. They're such a half-assed country.

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"This censor approved what I wrote," he said. "His decision is not that I have freedom of speech. His decision is that I have his approval. I'm not interested in his approval. The only test of free speech is if I can write what he disapproves of with impunity. That's what freedom of speech is, to piss off some second-rate bureaucrat like Pardeep Gundara and know that you have the right to do so, because you're in Canada, not Saudi Arabia."

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2008, August 8 - 11:57 — Isaac Bartram
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I wonder when the government will exercise its powers in defense of free speech in Quebec.

I think you say anything you want in Quebec, as long as you say it in French.

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2008, August 8 - 12:19 — lunchstealer
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Isaac Bartram wrote:
Ali wrote:
I wonder when the government will exercise its powers in defense of free speech in Quebec.

I think you say anything you want in Quebec, as long as you say it in French.

C'est très fallacieux, Isaac. Vous pouvez dire n'importe quoi en anglais que vous pouvez dire en français.

À condition que vous le disiez en français d'abord, et quand vous le dites en anglais que votre taille de police n'est pas plus grande que moitié de taille de police que vous avez employée quand vous l'avez dite en français.

That's really misleading, Isaac. You can say anything in English that you can say in French.

So long as you say it in French first, and when you say it in English that your font size is no greater than half the font size you used when you said it in French.

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2008, August 8 - 13:28 — Ali
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lunchstealer wrote:
Isaac Bartram wrote:
Ali wrote:
I wonder when the government will exercise its powers in defense of free speech in Quebec.

I think you say anything you want in Quebec, as long as you say it in French.

C'est très fallacieux, Isaac. Vous pouvez dire n'importe quoi en anglais que vous pouvez dire en français.

À condition que vous le disiez en français d'abord, et quand vous le dites en anglais que votre taille de police n'est pas plus grande que moitié de taille de police que vous avez employée quand vous l'avez dite en français.

That's really misleading, Isaac. You can say anything in English that you can say in French.

So long as you say it in French first, and when you say it in English that your font size is no greater than half the font size you used when you said it in French.

A concrete example comes to mind. If you go to any Starbucks in QC (precisely, Montreal for I haven't seen a Starbucks anywhere in the province other than the ones in Montreal), cup sizes are not "tall" "grand" and.. um... whatever the third size is. They can't use these words because they're english. So they call their cup sizes something frenchy that I don't recall now. That's retarded.

EDIT: By the way, I freaking hate to call my small cup of cappuccino tall because it is freaking small! I just love using standard normal human being language when ordering stuff at Starbucks. And I love how they look to me as if I am retarded and do, in fact, correct me! I make a point by asking for my small cup of cappuccino!

Oh, also in QC, the ratio of your english speaking cable tv channels to your french cable channels at your home can't be more than a certain percentage.

And that and other things are required by law.

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2008, August 8 - 13:24 — J sub D
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The world lingua franca used to be French (duh) and is now English, American English to be precise. French speakers are a bit sensitive about that fact so overcompensate with language police such as Office québécois de la langue française (Quebec Office of the French language). I think it's kind of pathetic, but it's not my tongue being eclipsed on the world stage.

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2008, August 8 - 13:37 — Eric the .5b
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Ali wrote:
EDIT: By the way, I freaking hate to call my small cup of cappuccino tall because it is freaking small! I just love using standard normal human being language when ordering stuff at Starbucks. And I love how they look to me as if I am retarded and do, in fact, correct me! I make a point by asking for my small cup of cappuccino!

It's because they actually have a "short" size - same amount of espresso, less milk. It's an open secret, as it's not on the menu and they'll never call out "short cappuccino" when the order is ready, but they will sell it to you...

2008, August 8 - 15:20 — dhex
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i was in starbucks today and asked for a small iced coffee (vendor gift card) and no one gave me shit.

i no speaka no italian, mama mia!

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2008, August 8 - 19:46 — Aresen
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Yes, in Canada we have Government Approved Free SpeechTM. Which would be kinda funny except it ain't. "Minority Rights" trump individual rights.

30 years ago, when the Trudeau government created the Star Chamber Human Rights Commissions, many of us warned that they would be used in precisely this way. We were called "alarmists." Now it is happening and we are being called "racists."

I expect I will live to see one of Levant's successors "convicted" on one of these accusations.

The present Conservative government would probably like to abolish the damn things, but they are a minority government and do not dare do so for fear of losing all chance of ever forming a majority government.

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2008, August 8 - 20:59 — Shem
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Eric the .5b wrote:
Ali wrote:
EDIT: By the way, I freaking hate to call my small cup of cappuccino tall because it is freaking small! I just love using standard normal human being language when ordering stuff at Starbucks. And I love how they look to me as if I am retarded and do, in fact, correct me! I make a point by asking for my small cup of cappuccino!

It's because they actually have a "short" size - same amount of espresso, less milk. It's an open secret, as it's not on the menu and they'll never call out "short cappuccino" when the order is ready, but they will sell it to you...

Mostly it's not on the menu because nobody ever wants it. Contrary to popular belief, compared to other drinks very few cappuccinos are sold in cafes. Most people drink lattes, or mochas, or even breves, which are pointless that small. The ones who want purer coffee usually get a straight shot and put some half-and-half in there, if even that. Or, if they want something to sip, they get americano. Cappuccino is a pointless beverage.

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2008, August 8 - 22:04 — D.A. Ridgely
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Cappuccino is a pointless beverage.

Not with a shot of grappa in it, it isn't!

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2008, August 9 - 07:32 — Shem
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Cappuccino is a pointless beverage.

Not with a shot of grappa in it, it isn't!

But then it's not a beverage; its just flavoring for grappa. Which is never pointless.

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