I'm looking to buy a used car, and have been visiting local dealerships as well as looking online.
I've found a couple of cars I'm interested in on the website for CarMax. They claim to be different than other dealers by doing the no-haggling, our prices are fair and here they are" kind of thing. They also list Blue Book Value right along side their price, with their price usually being below what KBB value is. I also looked up KBB values independently, and they are close to what is given on the CarMax website.
So, has anyone here dealt with them? If so, what is your impression of them? Are they worth dealing with?
Also, for getting a loan for a car, is it generally better to get one via the dealership, or should I go with a bank? (Somewhat dependent, of course, on interest rate.) Do the terms of a loan from a dealership usually have small print that one wouldn't usually find on a loan from a bank? Say, like, penalties for early payment and such?
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Re: Has Anyone Here Ever Bought a Car from CarMax?
Figure out how much you can afford, then get a loan directly from a bank, then go shopping. The bank will probably give you a much fairer rate than you'd get directly from the dealer otherwise, and having the financing walking in the door improves your bargaining position on the interest rates and other terms of the loans. Then you just wrangle with the dealer and take whichever deal is better.
It also helps you bargain; if you already have funding set, not only are you less likely to go over, the dealer is more likely to take you seriously when you eventually say that you won't go over a certain price. Having done it both ways, the amount of benefit that you get from walking in with the money in your pocket already can't be overstated.
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Re: Has Anyone Here Ever Bought a Car from CarMax?
I've sold an old car through them and dad has bought a car or two. I'm fond of the process.
If you are looking for absolute lowest price possible, you can do better negotiating, finding competing dealers, going in with Edmunds printouts, and that sort of thing, but for very little increase over the bottom you are likely to find, you can be done much faster. They will try to pad their bottom line selling add on services and features to your car - better stereo, warrantees, paint, that sort of thing. They aren't aggressive about it and in some cases you might even want to buy the add ons.
Overall 4 out of 5 stars on my experiences, with the one caveat that last time I thought about selling a used car I visited them and they were uncompetitive by a good margin. In other cases I'd received Edmunds TMV or higher right off the bat.
EDIT: This is about CarMax
Re: Has Anyone Here Ever Bought a Car from CarMax?
My bargaining tactic is to always imply (whether true or not) that I've been approved for a loan for / have X amount of cash for a car. I just don't reveal X amount and am straightforward enough to tell them "I don't need to do this today, if you're not willing to come down on the price". When buying a car I always act like I don't need it.
But, to the original topic: no I've never been through CarMax, but they're always pimping their BBB cred. And to the second part: yes, go through the bank. Dealership loans are notorious outlets for what you could call "subprime car loans".
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Right now, there are a ton of factory incentives on automotive loans you aren't likely to beat at a bank. In times of robust sales, the opposite is true. I got 2.9% on a new Audi, and they were running certified used at .9% for 60 months.
Confirm no penalty for pre payment and if you are worried about it confirm terms for late payment. You can get killed paying one of these things late under some versions I've had.
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Cool.
Thanks for the info, everyone.
Right now I'm looking at either getting a MINI Cooper S or a 2006 VW Jetta TDI. The Chunderbird just isn't doing it for me any more.
(There's also a 2006 Subaru WRX STi for sale at a local dealership. The little devil on my shoulder keeps telling me I should get that one.)
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I've only browsed at CarMax, but my best guess is that they're reliable and competitively priced when it comes to late model used cars. That doesn't mean they're the lowest priced, but what they are really selling is a wider selection and a national reputation. If the reputation goes south, so does their business model. You won't get the best possible deal but you'll avoid getting screwed. (Which is not, of course, the same as being happy with whatever it is you end up buying.)
I never, never, never take dealer financing on a new car. I always get a line of credit first and, after deciding on the car I want, discuss nothing but bottom line price with the dealer. (And shop them between one another via e-mail. Ah, vengeance is sweet!)
Price and financing are simply a see-saw from the dealer's point of view. If you really get him down to his lowest cash price, he won't give you the 'special financing rate.' If you lock in that rate first, you've also locked in a higher price.
That said, there's nothing really wrong with dealer financing if you don't have a bank or credit union that will give you a fair rate. Mind you, though, that your credit union / bank rate will almost certainly be higher than that "special dealer rate" because they don't care (up to a point) what you pay for whatever it is you buy. It's up to you, therefore, to weedle the dealer into the lowest possible price.
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Shem's advice is good.
A couple of points to add: Dealerships are inclined to hook you up with their floor-plan company. Read the contract carefully. (Difficult, given the language of the damn things.) There is a nasty little clause called the "binding arbitration" clause in many floorplan contracts whereby you agree to binding arbitration and waive your right to take them to court.
Get the used-car guide. (The one published here in Canada is called Lemon-Aid.) It is really worth buying in order to find out the things that the dealership won't tell you about the car you are interested in.
Also, if someone insists that you sign a contract today, take a walk.
Make sure you are being quoted the bottom line price. Not the price before "preparation charges", "delivery charges", "documentation charges", or other such bumpf.
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