Summer Vacation Tunes

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If only because someone might repost Mungo Jerry's Summertime and wind up Mr. Shultz about those #@#$# hippies or maybe a few Beach Boys tunes to flush out the Dick Dale surf purists, herewith a thread for classic summer tunes, if you get my, um, Drift...

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I'd have to say Summertime Blues is the quintessential summertime anthem. As far as I know, The Who's version is still best known/most played, but it's been covered a zillion times.

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No way, "Summertime" by Sublime is far superior.

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Shem wrote:
No way, "Summertime" by Sublime is far superior.

Hip-hop? That isn't "superior" to anything, even country.

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Interestingly, there are at least four distinct sorts of summer songs: (1) Won't summer be fun when it gets here?; Summer's here and (2) it sucks or (3) is great; and (4) Summer's (almost) over. Here's one of those old Baby Boomer numbers (by way of Gershwin):

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Warren wrote:
Shem wrote:
No way, "Summertime" by Sublime is far superior.

Hip-hop? That isn't "superior" to anything, even country.

It's superior to "Summertime Blues," which is just warmed-over pap from the '50s. Even when The Who does it.

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Oh yes! Janis is the AWESOME, just don't tell Ken.

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summertime kinda loses it's appeal when you stop getting the summer off, i think. you can't really write a song like "it's sweaty and i gotta go to work today." well, you can, but it won't be very good.

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Warren wrote:
Oh yes! Janis is the AWESOME, just don't tell Ken.

Oh, I suspect he approves of "dirty, smelly hippies" who had the good graces to die young.

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dhex wrote:
summertime kinda loses it's appeal when you stop getting the summer off, i think. you can't really write a song like "it's sweaty and i gotta go to work today."

LOL, so true!

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"Summertime" by DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince is actually pretty good.

I can't link directly to it because work is again currently on one of its "Let's block YouTube" kicks, but you can find it at YouTube via here.

EDIT: I will also make the bold statement that "Cruel Summer" is the best thing that Bananarama ever did. (For the "summer is here and it sucks" category.)

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For me, summer music has to include blues. Slow and spare, the kind that reminds you that in the delta in the summer it can be 11 pm and it's still 90 degrees with humidity so thick you can barely move.

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And then there's the song that just use summer as a metaphor. King's X's "Summerland" is mostly a wistful lament about "the good times are gone and will never come back".

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JD wrote:
And then there's the song that just use summer as a metaphor. King's X's "Summerland" is mostly a wistful lament about "the good times are gone and will never come back".

Does the "Summerland" in the song actually refer to summer, or does it refer to "the Summerland" in the Spiritualist sense of "the place you go when you die?"

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summertime kinda loses it's appeal when you stop getting the summer off, i think. you can't really write a song like "it's sweaty and i gotta go to work today." well, you can, but it won't be very good.

QFT

Summer in DC and NYC is a hell of sweltering heat and humidity, so you get some pretty bad attitudes about summer.

Fall on the other hand is completely awesome around here. We need to have Autumn tunes.

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Whine, whine, whine!

Okay, so you don't get 10 weeks off any more. You also don't have homework or final exams and, presumably, you have more money in your pocket (present 'victims' of the current recession excluded) and more freedom when it comes to how you will spend whatever vacation time you have. Plus, you could always go into academics and still get your summers off (well, after you get tenure, that is) or go out and make enough money to retire early.

Meanwhile, the point of the thread is what summer tunes you like, not how many f*ucking days at the beach you get to spend listening to them. Sheesh!

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The Lake Erie beaches aren't what they used to be. /whine

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how many f*ucking days

It's a good thing you aren't in charge of a censorship committee. :)

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What? You think I should have typed the whole word "flucking?" *sheepish grin*

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but dar summer is gross it's grooooooooossssssssssss grooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssssssssss

seriously though i've always enjoyed chromeo and john fahey for long summer drives to whatever lame ass place my wife wants to travel to.

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I always have to look up dhex tunes, but this guy doesn't sound so great to me:

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/200807/s2312236.htm?tab=sport

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Jake wrote:
JD wrote:
And then there's the song that just use summer as a metaphor. King's X's "Summerland" is mostly a wistful lament about "the good times are gone and will never come back".

Does the "Summerland" in the song actually refer to summer, or does it refer to "the Summerland" in the Spiritualist sense of "the place you go when you die?"

I think it's deliberately left ambiguous. There's definitely part of the song that's about getting old and not being what you once were, but Summerland is referred to in the past tense, too, which would be strange if it were only about the afterlife.

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mk wrote:
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summertime kinda loses it's appeal when you stop getting the summer off, i think. you can't really write a song like "it's sweaty and i gotta go to work today." well, you can, but it won't be very good.

QFT

Summer in DC and NYC is a hell of sweltering heat and humidity, so you get some pretty bad attitudes about summer.

Fall on the other hand is completely awesome around here. We need to have Autumn tunes.

QFT.

I hate hot weather, and summer in New York is its own brand of awfulness.

But fall is awesome and there must be happy songs to celebrate the fact that it's no longer 99 degrees in the shade.

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There are plenty of autumn "standards" -- Autumn In New York, Autumn Leaves, September Song. (Okay, so the last one is more about getting old. So sue me.) But they don't lend themselves to cruising or parties the way summer songs do. Anyway, if you're going to keep bitching about summer in the city, I might as well post this one, too:

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Shem wrote:
It's superior to "Summertime Blues," which is just warmed-over pap from the '50s. Even when The Who does it.

That's it! Your talking tickets are hereby rescinded. They will be returned when you get some taste.

On topic, there's also Blue Cheer's version of "Summertime Blues," the Lovin Spoonful's "Summer in the City," The Doors' "Summer's Almost Gone," Alice Cooper's "School's Out," and just about anything by Jimmy Buffett.

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I'm on Shem's side. Anybody who is defending "Summertime Blues" needs to knock back some Metamucil, turn on 60 Minutes and GO TO BED OLD MAN.

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The Jimmy Buffett Fan wrote:

That's it! Your talking tickets are hereby rescinded. They will be returned when you get some taste.

The jokes just write themselves.

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Ayn_Randian wrote:
I'm on Shem's side.

Thirded. I always thought the song was kind of boring. I don't even like it when it's performed ironically.

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Probably my favorite summer song is "Summertime Rolls" by Jane's Addiction. I scoured YouTube but I didn't like any of the versions that I found on there. If you have never heard the song before, I'd recommend listening to the album version first, because the studio version is better than all of the live versions, and the song doesn't lend itself to live recordings all that well.

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At the risk of taking time to straighten out you whippersnappers once again and missing dessert here at the home -- it's rice pudding night! -- this above-it-all, nearly terminal seriousness about music you won't be listening to in five or ten years anyway is the antithesis of summer music, but don't worry kids, you'll grow out of it eventually. Of course Buffett's stuff is trivial music -- hell, that's his act! He knows he's only had two hit songs in 31 albums and one of them sounds like the title song to a really bad chick flick. (Actually, "A Pirate Looks at Forty" is pretty good, but that's another story.) None of these songs are about being "good music" or pretending they're something other than pop tunes; in fact, they're about not giving a flying f*ck because the worst thing on your mind for a week or two is getting sunburned or running out of cold beer. Sheesh!

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Ayn_Randian wrote:
I'm on Shem's side. Anybody who is defending "Summertime Blues" needs to knock back some Metamucil, turn on 60 Minutes and GO TO BED OLD MAN.

Live at Leeds, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

smacky wrote:
The jokes just write themselves.

They may not be particularly good, but most of his songs certainly lend themselves to lazy summer days.

edit- yah, what DAR said.

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Hmph.

*kicks D.A.R.'s sandcastle over*

*makes a mad dash for the shoreline*

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Okay, I'll try to get into the spirit of things.

Seriously, this is a peppy summer tune. They played it at the show tonight and it sounded great.

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There's also this old one:

LOLmetal summer edition?

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oh danzig.

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None of these songs are about being "good music" or pretending they're something other than pop tunes; in fact, they're about not giving a flying f*ck because the worst thing on your mind for a week or two is getting sunburned or running out of cold beer.

woo! alcoholism! woo!

:)

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
this above-it-all, nearly terminal seriousness about music you won't be listening to in five or ten years anyway is the antithesis of summer music

I'm not serious about music, I'm serious about fighting a never-ending battle against sucking in all its forms, wherever I find it. And that song pings my suck-o-meter. At this point, it's just a copy of a copy of a copy.

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Shem wrote:
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
this above-it-all, nearly terminal seriousness about music you won't be listening to in five or ten years anyway is the antithesis of summer music

I'm not serious about music, I'm serious about fighting a never-ending battle against sucking in all its forms, wherever I find it. And that song pings my suck-o-meter. At this point, it's just a copy of a copy of a copy.

Shem,

What do you do when you hear music that you hate, or don't "get"? Does it make you feel awkward? It makes me feel awkward. It's like I short-circuit or something. Whenever someone plays "Summertime Blues", I start shifting from foot to foot, looking around at my surroundings nervously.

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smacky wrote:
What do you do when you hear music that you hate, or don't "get"? Does it make you feel awkward? It makes me feel awkward. It's like I short-circuit or something. Whenever someone plays "Summertime Blues", I start shifting from foot to foot, looking around at my surroundings nervously.

With me, it's like a timer starts. While it's running, I don't respond at all, but when it goes off (which depends on my mood) I'm suddenly like "turn this fucking shit off" and I've got to shut it off or get away from it. Being the youngest, and having older siblings with shitty taste in music has given me a high tolerance, but I still go off sometimes.

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What kind of loser gets the summertime blues, anyway? Try having chronic depression sometime, buster! Or better yet, try surviving a Cleveland winter...you won't come out of it without experiencing a severe bout of S.A.D. first.

edit: ;) <-- in case that wasn't already obvious

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I came here to mention Bus Stop by the Hollies. But now I'm compelled to write a diatribe regarding Summertime Blues.

So you think STB sucks, even the iconic The Who's version. What about The Guess Who, Bon Jovi, Rush? Yeah they all suck too. What about Blue Cheer, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys? Suck suck suck? Joan Jet, Bruce Springsteen, Van Halen? How about The Stray Cats, The Clash, Deborah Harry? All suckatude? What about a country version by Buck Owens? A metal version by Motorhead? A comedy by Cheech Marin? All teh suk? What about each and every one of the literally thousands of other versions covered by thousands of other artists?

The thing about STB is that it is one of the rare Rock Standards. It doesn't matter if the lyrics are any good or the melody is any good. I don't know who owns the rights to it, but the point is, that if it isn't actually public domain, nobody's had a problem getting the rights to it. And that's what makes standards, standards. Each artist puts their own stamp on it.

And besides all that, a "Why doesn't the world revolve around me?" anthem, is so American, it would be unpatriotic not to love it.

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Warren wrote:
I don't know who owns the rights to it, but the point is, that if it isn't actually public domain, nobody's had a problem getting the rights to it.

You can legally cover any song, no matter what the original artist thinks. You just have to agree to royalties or take the one-size-fits-all payment agreement if you and the writer/artist can't agree.

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What about The Guess Who, Bon Jovi, Rush? Yeah they all suck too. What about Blue Cheer, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys? Suck suck suck? Joan Jet, Bruce Springsteen, Van Halen? How about The Stray Cats, The Clash, Deborah Harry? All suckatude? What about a country version by Buck Owens? A metal version by Motorhead? A comedy by Cheech Marin? All teh suk? What about each and every one of the literally thousands of other versions covered by thousands of other artists?

wow, everything you named sucks. i don't think this is how you are supposed to make an argument, bro.

:)

anyway the original eddie cochran version is ok. i like saying DUH DUHDUHDUH, DUH DUHDUHDUN when it comes on because that's not bad for a hook from the ice age.

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Warren wrote:
I came here to mention Bus Stop by the Hollies. But now I'm compelled to write a diatribe regarding Summertime Blues.

So you think STB sucks, even the iconic The Who's version. What about The Guess Who, Bon Jovi, Rush? Yeah they all suck too. What about Blue Cheer, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys? Suck suck suck? Joan Jet, Bruce Springsteen, Van Halen? How about The Stray Cats, The Clash, Deborah Harry? All suckatude? What about a country version by Buck Owens? A metal version by Motorhead? A comedy by Cheech Marin? All teh suk? What about each and every one of the literally thousands of other versions covered by thousands of other artists?

The song sucks in my estimation. I've patiently sat through performances of it by both Blue Cheer and Rush, and possibly other bands that I am forgetting. A bad song is a bad song. If it says anything at all about the musicians covering it, it's only that they picked an ill-advised song for their set list for their performance that evening, and nothing more.

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And besides all that, a "Why doesn't the world revolve around me?" anthem, is so American, it would be unpatriotic not to love it.

I don't really see that as a point in its favor.

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The Omniscient Wikipedia wrote:
"Summertime Blues" (1958) is a 12-bar blues standard song by Eddie Cochran and Jerry Capehart about the trials and tribulations of teenage life in America.

It was written in the late 1950s by Eddie Cochran and his manager Jerry Capehart. Originally a single B-side, it peaked at #8 Billboard Hot 100 on September 29, 1958. The handclapping is performed by Sharon Sheeley, and the deep vocals at the end of each verse are done by Cochran.

The song was used in the 1980 movie Caddyshack. In March 2005, Q magazine placed it at #77 in its list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks.

Shem's one-man crusade against suckatude and his Platonic theories in support of that crusade aside, ultimately "This sucks" just means "I don't like this" when it comes to aesthetic judgments. We sort of volunteer to forget that fact when we discuss the relative merits of this or that work of art, a fact I was reminded of while listening to Straight Outta Compton the other day.

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a fact I was reminded of while listening to Straight Outta Compton the other day.

pics plz.

anyway, yeah, taste is taste is taste. it's all ice cream in the end.

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No, seriously. I've recently downloaded various CDs from the last 20 years, a handful of rap/hip-hop CDs included. F*ck Tha Police is far more clever than I had suspected it would be.

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rock!

did you get ready to die by biggie smalls yet? highly recommended.

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Meh, personally I'd pass on Biggie, but make sure you check out Public Enemy. And Eric B. and Rakim. And Digable Planets.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
Shem's one-man crusade against suckatude and his Platonic theories in support of that crusade aside, ultimately "This sucks" just means "I don't like this" when it comes to aesthetic judgments.

No no, I created a mathematical formula that allows me to determine the level of suckatude in any given work of art to within 4 millistone.** I'd share it with you, but the RIAA bought it so that they could lock it away in that warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

**named for Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and the rest of the Rolling Stones, whose dedication to sucking, found after an unfortunately brief flirtation with competence, was the inspiration behind my discovery.

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dhex wrote:
rock!

did you get ready to die by biggie smalls yet? highly recommended.

But I don't want to die by Biggie Smalls! Once again dhex's lack of capitalization and punctuation makes the situation funny.

I'm not much of a rap fan (and certainly not of Biggie), but I do keep some Public Enemy in my library, and I always liked Big Daddy Kane and MC Shan.

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seriously guys ready to die is the best hip hop concept album ever made. ever.

also nas' first album is great.

you cannot go wrong with east coast rap. well, you can, but in terms of the classics you cannot.

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I like MC Lutheran Teleprompta B.

Forget East Coast rap and West Coast rap -- Great Lakes rap is now where it's at. Straight Outta Manitowoc is hs best work.

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Stevo Darkly wrote:
I like MC Lutheran Teleprompta B.

Forget East Coast rap and West Coast rap -- Great Lakes rap is now where it's at. Straight Outta Manitowoc is hs best work.


I don't think his solo work is as good as back when he was still with Norwegians With Attitude.

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That reminds me of why I snicker whenever I see a Northwest Airlines plane, with the big "NWA" painted on the tail.

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Have we mentioned the "American Vacation Tune"?

Pity it's a crap recording. The lyrics are appropriate:

echolyn wrote:
I went a long way to find the lost hill
I walked the whole way after Knoxville
I paid a thin man who held a nice sign
I paid a cash toll to cross the state line
How many miles to the capitol
How far must I go
How many miles to the capitol
How far must I go

You should see the mountains
You should see the skies
I'm wild in America
Wild in my eyes

I went a long way to catch the sunset
I read some old news I'll never forget
I dug a hole in the dead highway sand
Hoping to get free from the tax free land

"After crossing a modest creek, over which lay planks,
I entered a group of backyards and driveways
where plenty of men drifted about their interests.
Some men had whiskers - some had whisky.
Some stood still holding pictures of the things they bought.
From beneath a crooked porch, an uninhibited
dog ran to my side. The dog stayed with me for a spell,
yipping and panting, then fell back not wanting
to wander too far from his bowl. I beckoned him
to come with me further, as it is nice to travel
with a friend, but the dog could not come and
I had to keep moving,
'less I be tied by his liable agreement."


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When I was a kid, we would visit my cousins in the summer and my aunt would take us kids to the pool. There was a jukebox that was always playing the likes of these over the PA system:

Summer Breeze
The Night Chicago Died
Billy Don't Be a Hero
Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy (a cover; I forget who did it)
Lion Sleeps Tonight
Horse With No Name
Bad Bad Leroy Brown
The Loco-Motion
Band on the Run
I Shot the Sherriff
King Fu Fighting

To this day, my cousins and I remember these "pool songs." We'll say, "Remember that song? Wasn't it a pool song?"

Although most of those songs are not inherently about summer (except the first one), in my memories they are all tangled up with memories of the pool, and summertime, and being a kid.

Lately I've tried to put together an updated list of songs I think are ideal for listening to at the pool or beach now. The only one I can think of right now is "Walk on the Ocean" by Toad the Wet Sprocket. It's about a summer vacation, as far as I can tell.

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Throw in "Dream On" and "Slow Ride" and you've got the songs I associate with my entire childhood up until I was able to choose music for myself. That list is a pretty good representation of what was on the radio in the 70s.

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Stevo Darkly wrote:
Lately I've tried to put together an updated list of songs I think are ideal for listening to at the pool or beach now. The only one I can think of right now is "Walk on the Ocean" by Toad the Wet Sprocket. It's about a summer vacation, as far as I can tell.

Yeah, but it's depressing.

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I suspect it was the Bette Midler cover of Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy, BTW. She did a couple of albums of WWII era pop songs back then and a few, including that one, charted.

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I think you're right, DAR.

Eric the .5b wrote:
Stevo Darkly wrote:
Lately I've tried to put together an updated list of songs I think are ideal for listening to at the pool or beach now. The only one I can think of right now is "Walk on the Ocean" by Toad the Wet Sprocket. It's about a summer vacation, as far as I can tell.

Yeah, but it's depressing.

Yah, but not depressing like, say, "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath or "Creep" by Radiohead.

When you're lying on a towel with the sun beating down on you, it's actually kind of mellow and and relaxing.

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Stevo Darkly wrote:
I think you're right, DAR.

Eric the .5b wrote:
Stevo Darkly wrote:
Lately I've tried to put together an updated list of songs I think are ideal for listening to at the pool or beach now. The only one I can think of right now is "Walk on the Ocean" by Toad the Wet Sprocket. It's about a summer vacation, as far as I can tell.

Yeah, but it's depressing.

Yah, but not depressing like, say, "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath or "Creep" by Radiohead.

When you're lying on a towel with the sun beating down on you, it's actually kind of mellow and and relaxing.

That's cool; it's just a huge case of YMMV. To me, "Creep" has the whole "adolescence involved social angst and melodramatic self-pity for everyone at some point" angle while "Walk on the Ocean" is just unremittingly sad, futile, and guilt-ridden. The latter's a pretty song, but I never actually want to listen to it.

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Eric the .5b wrote:
That's cool; it's just a huge case of YMMV.

Yanno, given some of the responses on this thread and my bleg thread, I don't see how you even can compare "mileage" because everyone is headed off in about thirty-twelve different directions musically (and in dhex's case, I think we're talking some power of that number). Sometimes after shooing some of you kids off the lawn I start to think maybe it really was a better world back when everyone's phone was from Ma Bell, there were three channels on television and there were a mere handful of popular (in the precise sense of non-classical) musical genres. I'm all for choice and (non-mandatory) diversity and all that requisite disclaimer crap, but there really is something to be said for sharing a common culture even if only to have the common urge to rebel against it.

I look at some stuff from the last ten or twenty years on some of these music blogs and see category labels like "post-punk-alt-country-metal-prog." My eyes glaze over. 90% + of this stuff is still based on 12 bar blues, pentatonic scales and I-IV-V chord progressions. Sheesh!

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
Eric the .5b wrote:
That's cool; it's just a huge case of YMMV.

Yanno, given some of the responses on this thread and my bleg thread, I don't see how you even can compare "mileage"

It's a vector, not a scalar. :)

I don't quite get the reaction, though. (It's just a sad pop song!)

Really, everything's boiled down to rock, pop, hip-hop, or dance during my lifetime. But that's like "reptiles, mammals, birds, and fish" - we may still be talking things with spines and skin/feathers/scales like they had in 1970, but sometimes you want to be more precise. :)

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rats and humans are both mammals.

but that's not always a useful label.

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dhex wrote:
rats and humans are both mammals.

but that's not always a useful label.


Obviously, you've never taken undergraduate experimental psychology.

But seriously, okay, sure, point taken. OTOH, it's easy to create distinctions without meaningful differences, too. I actually have no axe to grind here, I merely note that from an outsider's perspective it looks more like a cacophony of sub-genres and sub-sub-genres than an orderly, let alone useful, taxonomy. As said above, though, YMMV.

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I dunno, I have difficulty generating any sentiment surrounding anything by Toad the Wet Sprocket. Maybe it's that awful name they chose for themselves. It just seems to drip 90s, I'm going to influence the emo trend that you'll suffer through-ism from every pore.

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
there really is something to be said for sharing a common culture even if only to have the common urge to rebel against it.

We do share a common culture. Old people music. And what we watched on TV when we were little. Seriously, any discussion between people under the age of 35-ish will eventually devolve into what cartoons were watched after school/on Saturday morning. Just because it's not being immediately and totally defined by a record executive anymore doesn't mean it's not still there.

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Since we're going to count summer memories songs, at the local Putt-Putt where I spent many an afternoon as a kid (unlimited putting for cheap on Saturdays) AM radio was constanly played over the PA system. Mony Mony, Ode to Billy Joe, Sock it to Me, Baby (a local hit by Mitch Rider), and Tighten Up always remind me of lazy summer afternoons* putt-putting my youth away.

* Did anyone mention Sunny Afternoon, written by one of the smartest lyricists in all of Rock 'N' Roll? If not, that egregious oversight has now been corrected.

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J sub D wrote:
Did anyone mention Sunny Afternoon, written by one of the smartest lyricists in all of Rock 'N' Roll? If not, that egregious oversight has now been corrected.

QFT. Great catch. And here, in a pre-MTV B&W Winter Wonderland video, they are:

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I merely note that from an outsider's perspective it looks more like a cacophony of sub-genres and sub-sub-genres than an orderly, let alone useful, taxonomy.

yeah, that makes sense.

but so does "post-rock".

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
But seriously, okay, sure, point taken. OTOH, it's easy to create distinctions without meaningful differences, too. I actually have no axe to grind here, I merely note that from an outsider's perspective it looks more like a cacophony of sub-genres and sub-sub-genres than an orderly, let alone useful, taxonomy. As said above, though, YMMV.

Oh, to be fair, that can be taken to a level of real annoyance. Few people would give a damn about the Montgomery County population of the Muddy-Colored Generic Toad and its most important distinction from the Harris County population of the same species ("ten miles north on I-45"), after all. :) Similarly, the vast majority of even enthusiastic music fans don't care deeply about terminology and taxonomy, unless it's their one pet genre/scene/whatever, and even that's a minority thing.

Case in point - the record stores, while they were still the 400-pound gorilla of music distribution. All trends and diversification did for them was cause the "rock/pop" sections to be relabeled "Alternative" for a few years.

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Shem wrote:
I dunno, I have difficulty generating any sentiment surrounding anything by Toad the Wet Sprocket. Maybe it's that awful name they chose for themselves. It just seems to drip 90s, I'm going to influence the emo trend that you'll suffer through-ism from every pore.

As I pointed out to a friend who was shocked by the idea for several long moments, the main reason I can't work up hostility towards the Sinister Cult of Emo is because I grew up when emo, in all but name, was the very mainstream of rock music. Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, and Pearl Jam were the heavy hitters in a musical movement built largely on songs about how damned awful it is to be a middle-class white kid in the US. :)

As for TtWS (is that a full-sentence name or not? judges?), I think they had far less influence on nu-metal and the emos than the aforementioned trinity along with Stone Temple Pilots, etc.

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Shem wrote:
I dunno, I have difficulty generating any sentiment surrounding anything by Toad the Wet Sprocket. Maybe it's that awful name they chose for themselves.

Just FYI, the name "Toad the Wet Sprocket" actually comes from a Monty Python sketch called "Rock Notes"...

Eric Idle wrote:
Rex Stardust, lead electric triangle with Toad the Wet Sprocket has had to
have an elbow removed following their recent successful worldwide tour of
Finland.

...which is why I was so disappointed to discover that TtWS was not at all funny.

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To the "summer memories" songs I mentioned above, I forgot to include a big one: "Taking Care of Business" by Bachman Turner Overdrive.

While on vacation I heard a lot of songs I hadn't heard in a long time.* That was one of them.

* While either sitting in a Bar & Grill That Time Forgot, or frantically scanning for a non-country radio station during the drive there and back.

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Come to think of it. The Modern Lovers album was great for summer, especially Roadrunner.

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Yesterday I heard this classic in the low class watering hole I frequent. It brought this thread to mind.

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