Who Makes You Laugh?

D.A. Ridgely's picture

Other than Stevo, that is.

For example, I think Ron White is very funny:

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Yes, yes he is.

I don't care who you are.

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Ron White is good. I am really fond of Lewis Black's observations and his timing. Dane Cook can be funny with qualifiers as well as Eddie Izzard.

Timothy's picture

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A lot of you people. My girlfriend. Me (because I'm a comedy genius). Stand up...I can't think of anybody off the top of my head who's always good. I like some of Seinfeld's stuff, I like Norm McDonald.

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ALF.

Yes, ALF.

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Timothy wrote:
A lot of you people. My girlfriend. Me (because I'm a comedy genius). Stand up...I can't think of anybody off the top of my head who's always good. I like some of Seinfeld's stuff, I like Norm McDonald.

Hrrm, while you speak well of bacon and your musical tastes aren't all suck I will still have to kill you for these "comedians" you dare speak of.

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Kwix wrote:
Timothy wrote:
A lot of you people. My girlfriend. Me (because I'm a comedy genius). Stand up...I can't think of anybody off the top of my head who's always good. I like some of Seinfeld's stuff, I like Norm McDonald.

Hrrm, while you speak well of bacon and your musical tastes aren't all suck I will still have to kill you for these "comedians" you dare speak of.

Yeah, whatever, Dane Cook.

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michael richards flipping out on that guy and destroying his career in the process made me laugh.

caveat: i really enjoy the 2nd and 3rd seasons of drawn together. let this be your soothing balm.

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smacky wrote:
Yeah, whatever, Dane Cook.

Hey, I did say "with qualifiers". Mostly that his funny shit was five years ago.

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Lewis Black might have great comic timing, but I've never seen it, as I've never seen him tell a joke. He just makes statements in an angry voice and people pee themselves laughing.

Drawn Together is about as funny as getting gonorrhea in your eye.

I like Ron White and Dmitri Martin. And Jim Gaffigan.

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Dimitri Martin is pretty funny.

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Emo Philips. And you guys.

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Drawn Together is about as funny as getting gonorrhea in your eye.

i believe that was a plotline in season 2. (seriously, it's a really good show)

i agree with you about lewis black. he's angry about something, perhaps the fact he looks like he's wearing adult diapers.

you know who is a terrible fucking standup act? damon wayans.

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Andrew's picture

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Louis CK. Lewis Black. David Cross (sometimes). Flip Wilson.

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Yeah, David Cross. And Bob Odenkirk. Neil Hamburger. The Kids in the Hall.

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I grew up loving George Carlin. Lately, Ricky Gervais.

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Patton Oswalt.

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I like Lewis Black.

I've seen Christopher Titus do a great show on cable. Ditto Carlos Mencia, shortly after 9-11. His regular show ("Mind of ... ") was pretty funny most of the time, too. (But I don't know if it's still on.)

Oh, and Dave Chappelle. Probably more than anybody.

And when a local radio station carried Howard Stern, often I would just wince at how much of a pathetic asshole he could be, but a few times I almost drove my car off the road laughing.

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Tom and Ray Magliozzi on NPR's Car Talk. Standard Libertarian disclaimer #4 applies.

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Ooh, yeah, Emo Phillips. I love Carlos Mencia too; I think his show is funny, and I love it when he gets all "America, fuck yeah!" I do like Patton Oswalt a lot too, although his political stuff can be a little shrill. Russell Peters isn't totally laugh-out-loud funny, but he's consistently good.

Also, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. He did an interview on Fresh Air that almost made me drive off the road laughing.

I do love Wait Wait -- Don't Tell Me! ("the NPR news quiz") a lot. Even though they range from slightly blue to "let's all talk about how much we want to suck Al Gore's cock," they can be really funny. Plus, sometimes P.J. O'Rourke is on the show, and I love him dearly.

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Jim Gaffigan is very funny to me. Have you noticed that he doesn't cuss? Gaffigan is for the children.

Mitch Hedberg was very funny. Too bad about the death and all that.

Patton Oswalt and all the "comedians of comedy" or whatever they are calling themselves this week are great. Also, pretty much every comedian that was on Dr. Katz had a bit of funny in them. That show was great.

The show Arrested Development made me laugh out loud.

Oh, and Dane Cook sucks

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I admit Dane Cook doesn't work for me but I sorta figured that was just a generational thing. E.g., Conan O'Brien doesn't work for me, either.

Richard Pryor could make me laugh until I cried and would probably get my vote as best stand up comic ever. Woody Allen's first 4 or 5 movies were funny, but prior to that Woody was a hilarious stand up comic and, I suspect, the inspiration for Steven Wright, who is probably the smartest comedian working today. I liked Mitch Hedberg, too. He had a genuinely funny perspective and could make just doing silly jokes on stage work, a rare gift for a stand-up comedian. I remember Jonathan Winters on the old Jack Paar Show and elsewhere -- a brilliant, deeply disturbed man and, of course, the inspiration for Robin Williams, who was very funny before he became ponderous.

Of course, there's the one, the only Groucho. And for slapstick you can't beat the Three Stooges. But only with the original Curly. People who think Shemp is funnier cannot be trusted. I'll plug Firesign Theatre again -- you can listen to them over and over and find new things to laugh at in their first five albums and you don't even have to be stoned. (Although I'm told it helps.) Monty Python was funny and Fawlty Towers with John Cleese may be the funniest brief sit com of all times. Speaking of the Brits, P.G Wodehouse is the funniest writer. Period. Of course, one has to be able to abandon oneself to the entirely absurd Wodehousean world in order to enjoy his books (of which there are, I think, over a hundred), but no one who speaks English should miss reading at least one collection of his Jeeves and Bertie Wooster stories. (Hugh Laurie, btw, who now stars in House MD was best known prior to that show for portraying Bertie Wooster in a BBC series of adaptations.)

Finally, Mel Brooks. Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, etc., etc. and, of course, "Springtime For Hitler" in The Producers. Is there anything funnier ever?

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I too like Car Talk and Wait, Wait.... Now, frankly, while Ellie is right about the blue tint of Wait, Wait..., My impression is that these are the kind of people (Peter Sagal, at least) who would be libertarians if only they learned some economics. :)

And add me to the Arrested Development fan club.

And I read the PG Wodehouse Jeeves stories at an early age and enjoyed them beyond measure. Since then I found some of his other works and they were equally rewarding.

As you can see by my sig like Jean-Luc Godard, "Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho," (I'm a Marxist of the Groucho variety).

And just as with Wodehouse, the Marx Bros and the Stooges I am with DAR on Mel Brooks. Although I find I am alone (if the critics I have read are right) in liking Silent Movie. Frankly I laughed like a hyena at that flick.

Another of my favorites was Myron Cohen. He styled himself as a raconteur, rather than as a comic or comedian. He specialized in stories told in the New York City Jewish dialect.

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Bill Hicks
Lewis Black
Emo Phillips
Steven Wright
Sarah Silverman (and Bob Odenkirk was awesome in her Jesus is Magic movie, I'm otherwise unfamiliar with his standup. never seen Mr. Show)
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog
Patton Oswalt (was hilarious on the Wm. Shatner roast, I've never seen much of his standup. I hate King of drag Queens or whatever sitcom he was on)
Norm McDonald
Michael Ian Black
Jeffrey Ross
Greg Giraldo

Arrested Development (I'm proud to say I now own the entire series on DVD. David Cross was great on this show, I'm unfamiliar with his standup, and see the Mr. Show comment above.)
KITH
another vote for Wait, Wait...
Black Adder
House some of the sarcasm that Hugh Laurie manages to convey is startlingly, laugh-out-loud funny

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This is not a good thread. Several comedians named here are of the "if you think this is funny you are pulling down the national IQ" variety.

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Emo Phillips, people? CARLOS MENCIA?!? TELL ME IT IS NOT SO! TELL ME PLEASE!

*kicks pebble*

*opens vein*

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Hey now!

I'll rise to the defense of folks who thing someone who I happen to think sucks is nonetheless funny.

And I don't think Moe, Larry and Curly (Curly, damnit!, not Shemp and don't even mention Curly Joe!) ever did much for the national I.Q.

I think Lenny Bruce can be laugh out loud funny; Nick Gillespie disagrees. Hey, it's a free country. In Soviet Russia, party laughs at you, Warren! (Just kiddin')

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Here's the thing. All of them are funny--sometimes. But every time I have a favorite I see something else by them (the last season of Mencia, for example) that dulls it for me. I mean, I know Mencia can do politically incorrect ethnic stereotype humor...now let's see something else.

And if he stole from The Amazing Racist, that assmunch deserved it.

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i like dumb comedy.

but i'm picky like that.

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Gaffigan seem strange to me, rarely makes me laugh. Lewis Black, I agree just says stuff angrily. I listen to a lot on Sat Radio and here's my $0.02: Ron White is pretty good, nothing beats old Richard Pryor, my tolerance for Larry the CG is measured in tenths of a second, and some of the early Caliendo stuff is good, but lately he seems to be just petty. Bobby Collins is pretty good, always has me laughing.

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i always figured larry the cable guy was for people who thought jim carrey was "too ethnic."

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dhex wrote:
i always figured larry the cable guy was for people who thought jim carrey was "too ethnic."

I know this is a flyover country dig, but their stand-up acts aren't really similar.

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Shit! About two years after I first heard saw the acronymn, I just now figured out that "KITH" is "Kids in the Hall"!

I think the first time I tried to look up "kith" via Google all I could find was some stuff about some Dutch heavy metal band, I think, and the aliens in a Poul Anderson book.

Finally, enlightenment.

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I know this is a flyover country dig, but their stand-up acts aren't really similar.

to be sure: i just picked the most annoying person i could think of who wasn't jerry seinfeld.

i don't know if there's a liberal latte version of larry the cable guy. i might venture to mention david cross, whose stand up is kind of annoying, but i don't know if he's regional or more of just a general purpose dick.

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I think by definition you can't have a liberal latte guy doing the "I'm stupid, low class, and proud of it!" standup bit if it's not a sendup of Bush.

Well, except for Dave Chappelle doing his "black people are stupid, thuggish, oversexed drug dealers who intimidate white people, I mean, uh, sure white viewer, it's meant as irony. No really" bit. He can be funny, but he can also be the black Mencia.

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I like Lewis Black, although people are right, he's more of a rant comedian than anything else. But you know, I can't think of too many particular comedians I like. Maybe for me it's all about the specific act or something. That's not to say that Richard Pryor wasn't great, and Mel Brooks, and the Marx Brothers. And Joel and Mike and the bots, naturally. (Yes, I am one of those heretic Mike-preferring types. You may stone me now.) Gallagher had his moments. And Anita Cookie makes me laugh, although she's a pretty local thing and I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone to know who she is.

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JD wrote:
And Joel and Mike and the bots, naturally. (Yes, I am one of those heretic Mike-preferring types. You may stone me now.)

Huzzah!

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you can all stone me because i never thought mst was funny. i'd been doing a much better job of that long before i ever knew the show existed. (though i do share that one guy's love of roadhouse.)

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I think by definition you can't have a liberal latte guy doing the "I'm stupid, low class, and proud of it!" standup bit if it's not a sendup of Bush.

naw, he would be doing like, uh "i read the sunday times" or something, i guess.

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Well, except for Dave Chappelle doing his "black people are stupid, thuggish, oversexed drug dealers who intimidate white people, I mean, uh, sure white viewer, it's meant as irony. No really" bit. He can be funny, but he can also be the black Mencia.

man, carlos mencia is so unfunny that he's a black hole of humorlessness covered in angry nuns.

but i do see the point about chappelle. so did he, for that matter, though i tend to think the issue was more people latching onto some things - aka the rick james stuff - and not really being as smart as he'd hoped they were.

oh shit i forgot wondershowzen. that was pure excellence, particularly the very last episode.

edit: along the lines of the latte liberal (troy the marketing guy?) comedian, one of the worst tropes in all of comedy is the "white folks do [xxx] and black folks do [xxx]" - not because it isn't going to be funny in the right hands but because the right hands have a much better way of doing things.

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The rap on Mencia is that his steals other comics' stuff. Don't know if it's true or not. Of course, the running gag about stealing other comedians' jokes was about half of Milton Berle's routine for 20 years. Berle is otherwise well known for (1) being "Mr. Television," wearing a dress long before Eddie Izzard made being a transvestite part of the act and (2) having the longest schlong (comedy law requires the use of Yiddish whenever possible) in show business long before Ron Jeremy.

Chappelle can be very funny, but I find him to be a bit of a one trick pony in the Eddie Murphy / Chris Rock tradition of race humor after Pryor.

There is actual comedy tucked away inside Lewis Black's scream routines and lord knows subverting outrage to comedic effect is as old as the hills (but probably not older than Benny Hill). He works well in the context of shows like the Daily Show, but I can't see him with his own talk show.

Speaking of which, I don't find Jon Stewart funny at all, though I think he has good writers. Don't think I've seen Patton Oswalt, speaking of Stewart, but as he (and Stewart and M*A*S*H TV show writer Karen Hall, and Linda Lavin and Glen Close) went to my alma mater, I'm sure he's a clever chap.

Has anyone already mentioned P.J. O'Rourke? He's funny in print (which sorta includes delivering a speech he's written in advance), not so funny as a talking head. I find that's often the case with funny writers. Many of them are not very witty spontaneously or in public.

Finally, while I don't find Larry the Cable Guy all that funny, either, I trust it is well understood that he's a character like, say, Pee Wee Herman.

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dhex wrote:
oh shit i forgot wondershowzen. that was pure excellence, particularly the very last episode.

edit: along the lines of the latte liberal (troy the marketing guy?) comedian, one of the worst tropes in all of comedy is the "white folks do [xxx] and black folks do [xxx]"

Ah, that would be called "Sinbad's entire schtick".

Now, to me, Wonder Showzen definitely had its brilliant moments, but too much of it was just about being aggressively weird without having much point, which isn't enough. And this from a guy who likes Robot Chicken and Bob the Angry Flower, too.

I think this thread is turning into "Who doesn't make you laugh?" in which case my main answer is: Martin Lawrence. What the hell has anyone seen in him?

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JD wrote:
I think this thread is turning into "Who doesn't make you laugh?" in which case my main answer is: Martin Lawrence. What the hell has anyone seen in him?

Who?

(N.B. -- that is supposed to be a funny, rhetorical question. Please, no one feel the need to explain to me who Martin Lawrence is.)

As for "Who doesn't make you laugh?" Other than the few mentioned above and the many beneath mentioning, two words spring immediately to mind:

Pauly Shore

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I think you have to sort of acknowledge that people who are funny are only funny for scintillating moments before they collapse into the black hole of "no follow up schtick".

Chris Rock at his best was as good as anyone. Prior was great. Chappelle was really good.

They all burn out or die, though. Stand up is unsustainable. The best lived are people who are consistently clever but never truly funny. Those are the guys who do well on late night and such.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
Has anyone already mentioned P.J. O'Rourke? He's funny in print (which sorta includes delivering a speech he's written in advance), not so funny as a talking head. I find that's often the case with funny writers. Many of them are not very witty spontaneously or in public.

I agree with that. His written stuff tends to be very funny. And you're right, he can come across as wooden or forced when speaking of the cuff.

To illustrate, he shows up occasionally as the token conservative on Wait, Wait....Don't Tell Me. He does his best in the witty spontaneous banter sessions but he really can't compete with Roy Blount or Paula Poundstone*. He does do better in the section where the panelists tell one true story and two fake ones. But then of course he is reading from a script which he has carefully edited and probably rehearsed.

*I'm really not that familiar with Paula Poundstone's work except from Wait, wait.... At first I thought she was a bit of an airhead but I soon realized she's actually rather a clever woman.

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Dave Barry is another guy whom I thought was very funny in print -- although he probably retired at about the right time, before he could get stale -- and not necessarily so funny as, say, a guest on David Letterman.

Dave Barry did a pretty good interview with Reason magazine once. He made some good points -- especially with his "sex with dogs" analogy -- and he was entertaining, but it wasn't the same as reading one of his own columns.

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Chappelle and Chris Rock were funniest when they broke out of the "White people do this, but black people do this" mold. The Blind KKK member was genius. The MTV's Ghetto Real World was racist crap, I don't care who wrote it.

I've never really gotten what's so great about Pryor, except that everybody's supposed to get that Pryor is so great 'cuz he did drugs and burned himself or something. Maybe I haven't heard early enough routines, or it's one of those things that "broke ground" if you'd never heard it before, but now that you've heard a thousand retreads, it doesn't seem as funny.

Mike Nelson usually makes me laugh.

Nick Gillespie makes me laugh. Dave Weigel is starting to consistently make me chortle with his snark, too.

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Hmmm,

Maria Bamford
Catherine Madigan
Pablo Francisco - well there was that one routine, which apparently he's never changed
Ron White
Robin Williams - seriously, has anyone ever given a better explanation of golf.
Bill Engvall - he has some good "family life" jokes
Stephen Lynch - the funny guitarist
Sean Cullen - songs and regular jokes

there are more, but i'm sure this is enough of a list to piss off somebody who disagrees.

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Now, to me, Wonder Showzen definitely had its brilliant moments, but too much of it was just about being aggressively weird without having much point, which isn't enough.

well, the very last episode is one of the single best things i've ever seen. the patience episode was amazing. it was all about punishment. brutality. strength through joy.

the sort of themes i can appreciate in comedy.

some confessions:

dave barry never made me laugh. i don't get it.

daily show? zzzzzzzzzzzz.

and a double fuck you to coulbert. your whole routine is making fun of a guy who used to work for inside edition? maybe that's the latte liberal counterpart of larry the cable guy?

i kind of want to punch ron white, but i don't know why.

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After Christmas dinner, one of my girlfriend's aunts excitedly stopped the TV on a Ron White special and talked about how funny he was. After about 5 minutes, I felt my soul dying. This incident combined with all the NASCAR chat prompted a "What the fuck?!? We're not from the fucking south, people! You all grew up in Fucking New England, less than 50 miles from New York fucking City! Why the fuck are all acting like fucking rednecks?!?" rant that poor Shannon had to endure on the way home.

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tymac wrote:
After Christmas dinner, one of my girlfriend's aunts excitedly stopped the TV on a Ron White special and talked about how funny he was. After about 5 minutes, I felt my soul dying. This incident combined with all the NASCAR chat prompted a "What the fuck?!? We're not from the fucking south, people! You all grew up in Fucking New England, less than 50 miles from New York fucking City! Why the fuck are all acting like fucking rednecks?!?" rant that poor Shannon had to endure on the way home.

As stated at the beginning, I think Ron White is very funny and, for the record, his humor is only incidentally Southern, IMHO.

Sandy, you really should hear several of Pryor's early albums (That Nigger's Crazy, Is It Something I Said? and Bicentennial Nigger are all good.) and / or watch some of his early to middle career stand-up on YouTube. He definitely should not be judged either by the TV show or -- gag!-- by the movies he was in. His humor was deeply personal and keenly observational. I almost want to say that the fact that he happened to be a black comedian is almost incidental to his, and I do dare use the phrase here, comic genius. Okay, so much of his humor sprang from being a black man (just as, say, Woody Allen's came from being a skinny Jewish kid), but it transcended mere demographics.

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Lost_In_Translation wrote:
Robin Williams - seriously, has anyone ever given a better explanation of golf.

No, and no one ever will, either.

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Ah, tymac - you act like there aren't rednecks within 50 miles of NYC. You should know better than that. I suppose you do, now...

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Robin Williams - seriously, has anyone ever given a better explanation of golf.

Mark Twain comes to mind. I don't think that bit was funny because of the material, I think it was all about the Scottish accent. Trainspotting was pretty damned funny too. Ann fukkin Brad Pitt manufacturing his own British Isles dialect i dah branny bushin frawggle ma deh PISHWA!

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Sandy wrote:
I think by definition you can't have a liberal latte guy doing the "I'm stupid, low class, and proud of it!" standup bit if it's not a sendup of Bush.

Eh, more "dumb, low-class, and amiable about it". The key to the persona that a lot of people don't get is that Larry is doing three things at once:

• Being so dumb and low-class that virtually everybody, even proudly self-identified rednecks, see him as dumb and low-class, not quite a social equal, but a clown
• Talking about people who are ridiculously dumber and more uncouth than he is
• At all times remaining likable and sympathetic so that he stays a clown and not a ugly caricature

That last is key - unlike (say) Jeff Foxworthy, who does a straightforward everyman shtick, even us folks of rural background aren't supposed to identify greatly with Larry. We're supposed to look down on him. However, we're not supposed to look on him with hostility or disdain - that would change the reaction from, "Oh, that Larry!" to "Hey, is this asshole someone's view of us?"

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Well, except for Dave Chappelle doing his "black people are stupid, thuggish, oversexed drug dealers who intimidate white people, I mean, uh, sure white viewer, it's meant as irony. No really" bit. He can be funny, but he can also be the black Mencia.

Well, I thought the reason he ended the show was that he suddenly realized that the irony he thought he was communicating wasn't actually conveying to many or most people. I thought that was a respectable choice in the face of, well, doin' it wrong. I haven't seen any comedy he's done since, mind.

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no, i think we all get he's supposed to be an annoying douchebag. :)

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tymac wrote:
After Christmas dinner, one of my girlfriend's aunts excitedly stopped the TV on a Ron White special and talked about how funny he was. After about 5 minutes, I felt my soul dying.

Oh, my god, I feel your pain. Back when David and I were dating, we spent one Christmas Eve with his family and someone pulled out a CD of a Christian comedian. The whole thing went something like:

"I'll admit it, I'm scared to fly. People always say, why are you scared to fly? It's more dangerous in a car. But you can't change your mind halfway in a plane! 'Uhh, actually, I'd like to get off now!' (audience laughter) But the thing is, NONE of us should be afraid of death! For we will live eternally in CHRIST JESUS! (Audience cheering.) But seriously, what's the deal with airplane food?"

dhex wrote:
edit: along the lines of the latte liberal (troy the marketing guy?) comedian, one of the worst tropes in all of comedy is the "white folks do [xxx] and black folks do [xxx]" - not because it isn't going to be funny in the right hands but because the right hands have a much better way of doing things.

This is how black people dial a phone:
[jamming] BOOP-ba-da-BOOP-daBOOP BOOP daBOOP

This is how white people dial a phone:
[licks finger] boop BOOP boop BOOP boop BOOP BOOP

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CD of a Christian comedian.

I think this should be in a thread entitled "Who makes you cry?"

I mean, seriously, Jebus is kewl and all that but if your shtick for stand-up is a dude who was nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, you might want to save yourself some time and retire early.

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Kwix wrote:

I mean, seriously, Jebus is kewl and all that but if your shtick for stand-up is a dude who was nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, you might want to save yourself some time and retire early.

Soooooo....

Jesus walks into a hotel, hands the desk clerk three nails and asks...

"Can you put me up for the night?" [rimshot]

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I'd go see a Christian comic who had the balls to open with that joke.

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FWIW, I saw Ron White at a local comedy club a few years before I started recognizing him on TV. He was pretty good.

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Oh, my god, I feel your pain. Back when David and I were dating, we spent one Christmas Eve with his family and someone pulled out a CD of a Christian comedian. The whole thing went something like:

"I'll admit it, I'm scared to fly. People always say, why are you scared to fly? It's more dangerous in a car. But you can't change your mind halfway in a plane! 'Uhh, actually, I'd like to get off now!' (audience laughter) But the thing is, NONE of us should be afraid of death! For we will live eternally in CHRIST JESUS! (Audience cheering.) But seriously, what's the deal with airplane food?"

This is very sad. This is more sad than hundreds of crying puppies and kittens being loaded ominously onto a boxcar by grim-faced carnivorous reptilian creatures dressed in black leather military uniforms and long coats, on a cold gray wintry day, while mournfully atonal violoin music plays slowly in the background.

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I'm not saying that America has horrible taste in comedy. But dammit, Police Squad, was cancelled by ABC after just six episodes. The friggin' show was absolutely hilarious. Sorta like the Get Smart of the cop genre, but funnier. Six measly episodes of a show that I still believe is a top tier TV comedy.

I take that back. I am saying that America has horrible taste in comedy.

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J sub D wrote:
I'm not saying that America has horrible taste in comedy. But dammit, Police Squad, was cancelled by ABC after just six episodes. The friggin' show was absolutely hilarious. Sorta like the Get Smart of the cop genre, but funnier. Six measly episodes of a show that I still believe is a top tier TV comedy.

I take that back. I am saying that America has horrible taste in comedy.

But Police Squad went on to become a highly successful and popular movie franchise as the Naked Gun series.

I think that shows that lots of Americans have great taste in comedy ... but a lot of those particular Americans in position of deciding whether a TV series gets canceled often have very poor information as to whether it can yet catch on among a wider audience.

Alas, Naked Gun was the Firefly of sitcoms -- but with better successor movies.

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Stevo Darkly wrote:

But Police Squad went on to become a highly successful and popular movie franchise as the Naked Gun series.

I think that shows that lots of Americans have great taste in comedy ... but a lot of those particular Americans in position of deciding whether a TV series gets canceled often have very poor information as to whether it can yet catch on among a wider audience.

You masy be right. Network executives have never displayed a lot of astuteness. If they'd have let it run for a whole season, it likely would have succeeded.

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Stevo Darkly wrote:
This is very sad. This is more sad than hundreds of crying puppies and kittens being loaded ominously onto a boxcar by grim-faced carnivorous reptilian creatures dressed in black leather military uniforms and long coats, on a cold gray wintry day, while mournfully atonal violoin music plays slowly in the background.

That is not sad at all, because the only reason you would load kittens and puppies onto a boxcar would be to take them to their new, awesome homes! I mean, it is not like anybody would be mean to a baby animal ever. That is physically impossible.

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Hmm, good point!

But they could at least play some happier music.

Oh, I know why the sad music -- because the reptiles will miss them.

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Tim and Eric.
Now, I haven't really seen much of Wonder Showzen since I don't have cable, but if you want some of the most hilarious, bizarre, frightening, absurdist comedy EVAR, you have to watch Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job!

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oh man Tim and Eric are funny. Most of the time. Especially that "B'owl" skit.

David Cross, Bob Odenkirk, hmmm...
I really like anything Brendon Small does (home movies, Metalocalypse, etc.)
Mitch Hedberg had the coolest cadence ever.

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