Sooooo, I have been reading a bunch of Rothbard on mises.org, and now I want to commit to a WHOLE BOOK!
WOW!
So I was hoping that literate folks here could steer me into something that I will not only like, but finish and comprehend. I just got Hayek's "Constitution of Liberty", which isn't bad, but Rothbard seems to have a keen eye for ethical particulars, which is what I am in the mood for now. I would also consider any other Great Works by Great Persons Of A Libertarian Bent.
Any suggestions? What are your favorites?
Also, I've read and own most of Rand's catalog, so no softball answers from youz guys.
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If you're interested in Rothbard in particular, read For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto.
But be aware: Rothbard uses "libertarian" to mean "anarcho-capitalist." Also, disclaimer: I disagree with Rothbard on several things, especially WRT the Cold War. But I learned a lot from this book anyway.
A more closely reasoned book, IMO (and also a shorter one) is The Machinery of Freedom: Guide to a Radical Capitalism by David D. Friedman. This is also about anarcho-capitalism, but a lot of what it says can be applied to libertarianism/anti-statism in general. There is at least one area where Friedman disagrees with Rothbard, and that is the problem of "national defense" of an anarchic area from a state -- Friedman thinks this would be a lot harder than Rothbard seems to.
Another book I like very much is The Discovery of Freedom by Rose Wilder Lane. Caveat: It has been criticized as having errors in it (e.g., Mohammed didn't invent trench warfare like Lane said, the Romans did; Mohammed only reinvented it). Wilder herself said that it was written "at white heat" and really fast and she wasn't as careful as she should have been, and eventually described it as "a very bad book." But her errors aren't in her main points, and it's still a great and very inspirational book, IMO and that of many others. Lane was wildly traveled and had many interesting things to say.
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If you're interested in Rothbard in particular, read For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto.
If you're not into reading the thing (which may be boring first time over), you can also download the audio book from Mises.
If you have long commutes like I do, subscribing to Mises through iTunes would be great. Put all that great stuff onto your ipod and listen. And enjoy.
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I haven't read any Rothbard, but I can suggest Hayek. I really like Road to Serfdom, it's up there with On Liberty on the list of "things you must read to understand freedom"*
*Okay, not really, but they are very good.
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Regarding liberty, I really enjoy Mary Rose Wilder. Sad that she's so undervalued in the libertarian movement. If you do not know who she is: (1) you should be ashamed of yourself, and (2) see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Wilder_Lane .
I really enjoyed her Give Me Liberty (see mises institute for a pdf). I am reading her The Discovery of Freedom.
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For a more conservative-leaning libertarian (or is there is someone who is a conservative you might try to persuade) read some PJ O'Rourke, either Parliament of Whores.
Not very intellectually hearty stuff, but enjoyable reads on what one guy sees in RL when he encounters the Leviathan up and close.
I also thought Milton Friedman's Free to Choose was a very clear, concise, consequentialist argumentation on why guv'ment doesn't work and why the Open Society is Virtuous...or something like that.
I'm sure after reading Rothbard (of whom I have not read except for excerpts), all of that will seem like so much flimsy pap, but it's pretty good/simple stuff.
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Huh, I didn't know she went to high school in Crowley, Louisiana. Now I got something to tell my Cajun friends about (well until they realize that Frank is talking gibberish again and go back to playing XBox 360/having "quality time" with the wife).
Thanks for the informative link Ali!
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And it is not Mary Rose Wilder (duh!). It is Rose Wilder Lane. Sorry I was trying to blast this off while my sister was relentlessly calling my cell to go pick her up.
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I'll up Road to Serfdom and Free to Choose.
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I must cop to only having read of Rothbard (in its entirity) The Panic of 1819 (.pdf), which is a good historical read.
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I'd also recommend Uncle Milt's Capitialism and Freedom. Spending a few hours spent with Locke's Second Treatise on Civil Government is something all libertarians could benefit from.
On the less theoretical level, I recommend Doherty's Radicals for Capitalism.
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On the topic of O' Rourke, didn't he do a cliffs notes style overview of On The Wealth Of Nations.. If so, has anyone read it and can you recommend it? The actual book, I remember hearing, is not the easiest read as Smith had a tendency to wander. I'm certain that it's all brilliant, but I wouldn't want to start something I can't finish (again).
The Machinery of Freedom was so accessible to me that I read it from cover to cover as a dopey eighteen year-old in about 2 days. Just in time too, as my first election was coming up and I had until then planned on voting for Dukakis (of course, you know who I ended up voting for).
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I heard an interview with O'Rourke about TWoN, and IIRC, it wasn't a Cliffs Notes version, it was a completely different book where he compares/contrasts modern capitalism with Smith's vision.
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Ah, thanks for mentioning O'Rourke's book on Wealth; I'd been kinda meaning to check into that one of these days, but then I forgot all about it. It could have gone on my Christmas list; well, now it will go on my birthday list.
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I'm a big O'Rourke fan. If I were picking one book of his to recommend it would be either Parliament of Whores or Eat the Rich, which has the best expression of my views on poverty and poverty alleviation I've ever read. The book on The Wealth of Nations is also quite good, although I've only read it once and so don't remember details. But if you're not going to read Wealth it does a good job of telling you what you haven't read (I assume, since I haven't read Wealth either).
If you're curious about the Adam Smith book, read this, which is adapted into a chapter.
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Wealth of Nations isn't essential reading anymore, I don't think, because it's pretty much a prototype for modern economics. Theory of Moral Sentiments is a much more interesting book.
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QFT-why do we treat people the way we do? Unless I'm quite mistaken (and I very well might be), Smith had a view similar to the "monkeysphere." (Only without the evolution.)
Also, one shouldn't overlook Hume. The Scottish Enlightenment was quite important to the development of nineteenth-century liberalism (both economic and political). And Cobden, defintely recomend Cobden, a great advocate of trade over war. Oh, and pretty much any of the thinkers in the Anti-Corn League (which one could argue that Smith and Hume "founded").
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