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Ehn...it's more creepy and disturbing than anything else, but kind of an interesting artistic concept at face value. Still...

...good song, though.

At least the Animals aren't putting on any pretenses. They prey on innocent women with their boyish looks and musical talent.

I don't know if you're kidding, and it's just goin' over my head...

But just in case you aren't, and you're past your early twenties, I'd seriously suggest checking that box ASAP.

I've known guys like that. Not having checked that box, it tends to build up in a guy's head. ...and the things that build up there, they sometimes screw up real life.

Face value? Nice pun!

Prey on innocent women!? Apparently, they collect their heads and send them to a taxidermist!

Well that's different.

Similar thing happened to me with that one with the murderous mummy that turns out to be a sympathetic alien. Utter cheese when I saw it again, but scared the bejesus out of me back then.

It really doesn't take much to scare kids.

Ah, you know what -- I've confused two different movies. My apologies.

The Brain/Head That Wouldn't Die was the MST3K episode.

But the movie that I remember from my childhood was actually The Frozen Dead -- I Googled some key words and found the description here. I remember that the head/victim's name Elsa, and the other girl seeing luggage that looked like Elsa's was an important clue, and most of all the "Bury me ... " line.

Also, the part about the arms hanging out of the wall.

Both movies were similar in that they were both about living decapitated heads.

God, that "Bury me" line freaked the shit out of me as a kid.

"Me Tie Doughty Head?"

That's Me Tie Doughty Walker, I think, by the way...unless I'm misremembering.

It's been about fifteen years since I've been camping and telling ghost stories. But do you guys remember the ghost story scene in Meatballs? ... Meatballs the movie... about summer camp?... Bill Murray?... It was hilarious, well it was hilarious when I was 15 one week after coming home from summer camp. Yeah, I'm old.

Anyway there's this scene where Bill Murray (Tripper) tells a version of the one armed psychotic killer while sitting around the camp fire. The payoff is at the end of the story when he raises his arm and theres a metal hook like thing sticking out of his sleeve, and everybody screams.

Now I thought that was pretty cheesy when I saw it (it might work on the kids but not the counselors), but I gave it a try a year later (made the hook out of aluminum foil and plastic fork), and it worked (I think one girl wet herself). I've told it maybe three times over the years and it never failed, real "oh my god he's going to kill us" screams. A good fake hook to stick out your sleeve is essential, as is the telling of the story.

The classic Halloween ghost story I was told went like this:

On a dare, a boy went into a graveyard alone on Halloween night. "This isn't so scary," he said to himself.

Suddenly the ground near his feet shook, and a coffin rose out of the earth and floated a few feet above the ground.

It began to float toward the boy.

He moved away, and it followed him.

He ran outside the graveyard, but it floated after him.

He ran to his house, where he was all alone, and locked the door. He looked outside, and saw the coffin floating up the street toward his house.

The boy closed the drapes and got away from the window. Soon he heard the coffin pounding on the door. Bam. Bam. Bam. It got louder. BAM! BAM! BAM! Finally it broke through like a battering ram and floated into the house.

The boy yelled and ran upstairs, but the coffin floated up the stairs after him.

It followed him down the hall and into his bedroom, smashing through the door.

Finally, it had him backed into a corned and floated closer and closer. Frantically, the boy began patting his pockets for something to keep the coffin away.

He found some cough drops. He took one, and it stopped the coffin.

No, I think they're variants. The collection I read had "-Head", but "-Walker" gets more hits on Google.

We might need ghost-story/scary-movie stuff migrated to a Halloween thread. I may have to make one when I get home!

I'm surprised how many people haven't heard the coffin joke before. My family deploys those type of jokes on unsuspecting guests. Such as...

OK, OK. It goes by a number of names, and "kablash maker" is only one of them, so it's probably out there under some other name. It's one of these shaggy-dog stories - it gets bettter the longer you can drag it out. Forgive me if I copy and paste a little; this is a long joke and the details aren't important - it's more about the spiel.

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These three guys are waiting in line at an Army recruiting center, and they strike up a conversation. The line is so long that they have a long, involved conversation and become great friends and decide that if all of them can't join the same service, they won't join. So they get up to the front of the line, and the recruiting sergeant says to the first guy, "So, you have any special skills?" And the guy says, "I'm a baker!" The sergeant says, "Good, the Army needs bakers! Glad to have you with us!" And he says to the second guy, "Do you have any special skills?" And the second guy says, "Yes, I'm a carpenter." The sergeant says, "Great, the Army can always use carpenters! Glad to have you." And then the sergeant says to the third guy, "What about you?" and the third guy says, "I'm a kablash maker!" The sergeant has no idea what a kablash maker is, but he doesn't want to look ignorant, so he says, "Uh, we, uh, already have all the kablash makers we need, sorry." So the three guys leave, since they can't all join the Army.

They go to an Air Force recruiting center, and wait on line, and when they finally get to the front of the line, the recruiting sergeant says to the first guy, "So, you have any special skills?" And the guy says, "I'm a baker!" The sergeant says, "Good, the Air Force needs bakers! Glad to have you with us!" And he says to the second guy, "Do you have any special skills?" And the second guy says, "Yes, I'm a carpenter." The sergeant says, "Great, the Air Force can always use carpenters! Glad to have you." And then the sergeant says to the third guy, "What about you?" and the third guy says, "I'm a kablash maker!" The sergeant has no idea what a kablash maker is, but he doesn't want to look ignorant, so he says, "Uh, we, uh, don't have a budget for kablash makers this year, sorry." So the three guys leave, since they can't all join the Air Force.

They go to a Navy recruiting center, and they wait on line there, and when they get to the front of the line, the recruiting sergeant says to the first guy, "So, you have any special skills?" And the guy says, "I'm a baker!" The sergeant says, "Good, the Navy needs bakers! Glad to have you with us!" And he says to the second guy, "Do you have any special skills?" And the second guy says, "Yes, I'm a carpenter." The sergeant says, "Great, the Navy can always use carpenters! Glad to have you." And then the sergeant says to the third guy, "What about you?" and the third guy says, "I'm a kablash maker!" The sergeant has no idea what a kablash maker is, but he says, "Sure, I guess the Navy can use a kablash maker..." So they all sign up!

The three friends all go through basic training together, and then they get assigned to a ship that's going to leave on a tour. The ship's supply officer says to the baker, "OK, tell me what you're going to need for the tour." And the baker says, "I'll need flour and baking soda and eggs and salt (etc. etc.)" The supply officer says, "You got it. Now, ship's carpenter, what will you need?" The carpenter says, "I'll need boards, 2x4s, nails, screws, hammers, braces (etc. etc.)" The suppy officer then turns to the kablash maker and says, "What will you need for the tour?" and the kablash maker says, "I'll need to use a big space in the ship's hold, a lot of wood, hammers, nails, screws, screwdrivers, and the services of 50 hardworking men." The supply officer is a little nonplussed, but he says, "Sure, OK, whatever."

The ship sets out on its tour, with great fanfare. The first week, they're cruising along peacefully, and all the time, the baker is baking up a storm in the ship's kitchen to make baked goods for the ship - mix mix mix, bake bake bake - and down in the hold, the kablash maker is working away furiously with the assistance of the carpenter and the 50 hardworking men - bang bang bang, screw screw screw (get your mind out of the gutter). The second week, they get into a huge battle! And even as the battle rages, with bombs dropping and explosions all around, the baker is working away in the kitchen, mix mix mix, bake bake bake, and the kablash maker is down in the hold working away with the assistance of the carpenter and the 50 hardworking men, bang bang bang, screw screw screw (stop snickering). The third week out, all is peaceful again, and all through the week the baker is working hard, mix mix mix, bake bake bake, and all through the week the kablash maker is working hard with the assistance of the carpenter and the 50 hardworking men down in the hold, bang bang bang, screw screw screw (stop snickering!)

At the end of the third week, they cruise into a harbor. There's a big ceremony to honor the ship and its crew, and an admiral is there to inspect them and hand out medals. They're all standing there at attention on the dock in front of the ship, and the admiral is talking to people, and he says to the baker, "What did you do during the tour?" And the baker says, "I baked all the baked goods for the entire ship." The admiral says, "Well, congratulations, sailor; good job." Then the admiral says to the carpenter, "What did you do during the tour?" and the carpenter says, "I made and repaired all the wooden things on board." The admiral says, "Good job, sailor."

Then the admiral says to the kablash maker, "What did you do during the tour?" and the kablash maker says, "Well, I need to use the dock's crane to show you." So the puzzled admiral indicates his assent, and the kablash maker gets behind the controls of the crane. He calls out "Open the doors of the hold!" and the sailors open up the doors of the hold. The kablash maker lowers the crane's hook into the hold, and the sailors fasten it to something. Then he begins raising something out of the hold...it's an immense wooden box! All watching wonder what could be in it! The kablash maker operates the controls of the crane, and the crane begins to swing the box out, away from the ship, over the water. And then he drops the box in the water - and it goes kablash!

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Then the joke teller has a hearty laugh at the expressions on the faces of the listeners. And prepares to run, in case it looks like they're going to kill him. Yeah, come to think of it, maybe the "kablash maker" joke is worse than the coffin one...

Jadagul,

I think it's just supposed to build suspense. Also, I think it might be intended for children and other mentally stunted people. ;)

A nonindividualized programmable orgasmatron that pees beer and wants to please you...

...is there a "better" example in popular culture somewhere?

Not an example of a better beer! I'm a Bass guy, myself. I meant a better example of misogyny.

If that commercial had represented black people the way it represented women, there'd be a congressional investigation.

I should have recognized it.

I find the apparent acceptance of what I imagine people in the future will recognize as misogyny fascinating.

I imagine they'll look back at some of this stuff the way we look at, say, racist posters of Japanese people during World War II. ...as being remarkably distasteful if nothing else.

I just watched "American Psycho" last week. What a shitty, disgusting movie. The only two men who are killed are done in briefly, with a modicum of mercy, or at least a quick death, whereas each and every one of the women in the "film" get it slowly, shrieking and screaming. Just eewww. I don't care if it is a statement of some kind, that shit is un-called for.

One movie that struck me as being misogynistic in an odd way was Peter Greenway's Drowning By Numbers. A reoccurring plot line in his movies tends to be women conspiring to kill men who are basically defenseless against their feminine wiles and devious minds. This was also true in The Draughtman's Contract and probably a few others.

It's like the dude was terrified of women.

Misogyny is, as I understand it, any kind of mistrust or dislike of women. Usually it seems to manifest itself in a diminishing of women or abuse, but in this case the emphasis is definitely on mistrust. The characters themselves are seen as being quite powerful. It was particularly evident in Drowning by Numbers as there are three (arguably four) generations of women destroying men in the film.

So yeah, it's not what is generally thought of as misogyny, but it definitely would count. BTW, it really is an interesting movie. I would recommend it. I think it was one of his best. Up there with The Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover . It's a lot more accessible than A Zed & Two Noughts and a little less impenetrable than Draughtsman's Contract.

Fellini and women is something you could do a thesis on.

I don't recall him really dismissing females or having any kind of paranoid fantasies about them. More like, "Man, I just wish I could get chicks to stop being all complex and just do whatever I want them to. That would be awesome!".

Smacky,

All men are clueless stinking apes with no manners. Any period of time in which they don't fling their own feces deserves to be awarded. At least that is the impression I get from watching tv. It's the Home Improvement mentality I guess.

Many men buy it, or at least they don't mind. I guess they enjoy the ease of meeting the lowered expectations. I do find it a bit offensive, but not so much that I get upset about it.

By the way...

Busted link for top of the thread fixed...

*puts on physical anthropologist hat*
It's quite likely. Many female mammals, including primates, have some kind of estrus display. Humans are kind of unusual in that we don't. Some primate females develop colored swellings on their rear ends, but some which spend a lot of time sitting, or in tall grass, where the display would be difficult to see, develop swellings on their chest instead (gelada baboons, for example). Now, human females don't technically have estrus, which also complicates things, but some people think that since the swellings were originally a sign of estrus (and hence sexual receptivity), and then human females developed cryptic estrus and are always receptive, the sign stayed always appropriate even though it was no longer tied to actual fertility.

rimshot!

actually, speaking of which, i'm kinda blown away at the giant belvedere ads in the broadway-lafayette station. the MTA isn't usually this scumbaggish. (makes ya wonder what they decided not to run, huh?)

http://animalnewyork.com/news/2008/05/belvedere-blow-job-ad-get-blow.php

dhex - I would not have expected them to use a woman's "MORE COCK!" face for one of their ads on the subway, that is for sure.