GinSlinger said this was a crime against nature, but tonight I accidentally made a really delicious mistake. You see, I keep my various white kitchen powders in mason jars on the counter, unlabeled mason jars, and I'm not in the habit of tasting them before use as I can usually distinguish by texture. Well, tonight I didn't pay careful attention and ended up swapping confectioner's sugar for cornstarch. The following result.
Foodstuffs:
Sriracha chili sauce (a few fl oz, or so)
Confectioner's sugar, roughly 1/4 to 1/3 cup
Seasoned flour (just about a cup of AP four with a lot of fresh pepper ground into it)
1 egg beaten with 2 Tbs of water
Canola oil (2-ish cups, depending)
Boneless, skinless chicken pieces. I used thighs, breasts would work.
Hardware:
1 small bowl for egg wash
2 containers for dredging
1 10-12" cast iron skillet
Probe thermometer
Clothespin or clip of some kind
Ziploc bag
Directions:
Place the chicken pieces, at room temperature, into the ziploc bag and squirt with the Sriracha, close the bag and toss around to coat all the pieces evenly. Let that sit on the counter for about 30 minutes while you prep the rest.
Spread your confectioner's sugar out on a plate or in a shallow dish, do the same with your seasoned flour, put the egg wash in a bowl.
Pour enough oil to fill your skillet up about 1/2 way into the skillet, and heat the oil to 350 degrees F. Clip the thermometer probe to the side of the pan so that the tip is in basically the center of the skillet and submerged but not touching the bottom of the skillet and wait for the oil to come to temp.
When the oil is heated take the chicken out of the bag and dredge it in the sugar, then run it through the egg wash, then dredge it in the flour. Be sure to coat thoroughly and shake off the excess. Carefully slide the chicken into the oil, fry until done, flipping once about halfway through. The result will be a spicy but strangely sweet piece of chicken. I served this with some brown rice and a salad, but I bet squash or potatoes would be good too. I maybe wouldn't serve this with gravy, as the sugar+spice+gravy combo might be a little weird. If you don't want it to be sweet, well, don't be like me: realize the textural differences between confectioner's sugar and corn starch, or taste your mysterious white kitchen powders before cooking.
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix


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Ah, you replaced a corn product with sucrose. You're curing diabetes!
I'm changing the world by interacting with T. on this board.
"the only thing worse than a freeper is a blue state freeper that doesn't realize they're a freeper." -dhex
hoisted by their own waterboard!
-dhex
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I'll post my awesome graham-cracker fried scallops recipe tomorrow.
But, as Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means anything can happen at any time for no reason! Also, eat plenty of oatmeal, and animals never had a war... who's the real animal?
=Professor Farnsworth
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You know, I misread the word "kitchen" as "kitten," and was anticipating something way more interesting than just a recipe.
A parasite feeding on bacteria growing on fungus growing on cow excrement? The only way the parasitic chain could get any longer would be if the cow excrement worked for the government.
- Smacky
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The Experiment
1.25 pounds ground extra-lean turkey
4 bell peppers (1 of each color)
3 anaheim peppers
1 poblano pepper
2 yellow chile peppers
3 habanero peppers
4 serrano peppers
2 jalapeno peppers
2 14.5-oz cans diced tomatoes
1 small can tomato paste
1 cup beef broth
Chili powder, salt, cumin, garlic powder, etc.
Chop all peppers and place in crock pot. Mix in spices and tomatoes. Fry ground turkey and add to mixture. Add beef broth and then cover entire mixture with water. Cook on high for four hours, and then cook on low until served.
I've never made this before, and I don't know exactly what the result is going to be. I think it's going to be something in-between chili and stew, consistency-wise, and I know it's going to be spicy based on the extreme burning in my hands.
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four hours? shit.
"Yeah, but my character would be all swav and deboner." - Warren
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Looking for something to eat tonight I see.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Now that I've made it, I have a few addenda:
1. Don't add any water beyond the cup of broth.
2. Use 6 bell peppers (2 yellow, 2 orange, 1 green, 1 red) instead of 4.
3. Add two onions (I would've used these originally, but I forgot to buy some), which are fried with the ground turkey.
4. Use 2 poblanos instead of 1 (again, a grocery store screw-up).
Overall, though, it turned out well. It's spicy, but not painfully so, and very flavorful. I'll definitely make it again.
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Black Beans and Rice
I make a large batch and eat it throughout the week.
2 large red bell peppers, finely chopped
1 16 oz bag of black beans, boiled and drained
2 cans of tomatoes, 14 oz each
garlic powder to taste
hot red pepper flakes to taste
ground cumin to taste
ground bay leaf to taste
Cook the red bell peppers in olive oil until tender. Add the cans of tomatoes and spices to the pan and bring to a boil. Add the beans and a bit of water if necessary, simmer for 5 minutes. Serve over white rice.
Cheap, easy, healthy, and tasty.
"the only thing worse than a freeper is a blue state freeper that doesn't realize they're a freeper." -dhex
hoisted by their own waterboard!
-dhex
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And not even one drug joke so far? Man.
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haha I had a friend who would do that at boarding school - he was a big hippie and a big cook as well, so he just kept jars and jars of dried, green leafy material in his bookcase. The teachers finally gave up after taking his oregano one too many times.
But, as Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means anything can happen at any time for no reason! Also, eat plenty of oatmeal, and animals never had a war... who's the real animal?
=Professor Farnsworth
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Thoreau: that recipe reminds me of the obvious contribution I should make. I may have posted this on the old board somewhere, but it's too good, cheap and easy to pass up.
Red Beans and Rice (New Orleans Style)
1/2 pound red kidney beans
1 onion
1-2 cloves garlic
2 tablespoons chopped celery
1-2 sprigs of chopped parsley
optional: 1/2-1 pound meat (I use smoked sausage)
1-2 bay leaves
pinch of thyme
Salt, pepper, tabasco to taste
Instructions: chop onion, garlic, celery, parsley very fine. Take a large pot, throw all the ingredients into it, add water until everything is covered. Cook over low heat for about 3-4 hours (adding water as needed), until all individual ingredients (except meat) lose their consistency (so you should get a thick red paste, generally containing recognizable beans, but you should cook until you can easily squeeze a bean between your fingers). Serve over rice.
So, to summarize: you throw everything in a pot and then let it simmer for a few hours. So easy even I can make it properly, and I have literally been stopped for boiling water wrong.
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Jadagul
To add a more deliciousness to Red Beans and Rice try substituting a can of Coconut Milk for the same amount of water when cooking your beans.
I heard that from someone who said he got it from a Trinidadian.
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Jumping Jesus Christ on a pogo-stick shaped cracker that is brilliant! All the deliciousness of Cajun/Creole with a hint of Thai! GENIUS!
Jadagul: Sounds delicious. Also, spicy sausage is TEH WIN for such things, I really like andouille in red beans and rice.
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix
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OK, next time I make beans and rice I'm adding coconut milk and sausage.
This will be totally unhealthy.
"the only thing worse than a freeper is a blue state freeper that doesn't realize they're a freeper." -dhex
hoisted by their own waterboard!
-dhex
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Yeah, for the meat you can use a lot of different stuff. A lot of restaurants give you a choice out of some subset of smoked sausage, andouille sausage, pork chop, or smoked chicken. Smoked sausage is sort of what we've done traditionally in my house, although I also like andouille (my mother comments that it's an acquired taste, so I don't use it when I'm introducing people to the dish). The important bit is to have some sort of meat in the beans so that they take on a bit of extra flavor. And the sausage is tasty too--and present in small enough quantities that it's not just overwhelming.
Also, just a note to anyone trying this recipe: note that while it's really easy, it takes a while. Start early (at one or two) if you want to eat it for dinner that day. On the other hand it also keeps forever, so you can do half of it one day and stick it in the fridge, then finish cooking it and eat it the next day.
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My Jamaican friend cooks his Beans and Rice with shovelfuls of Scotch Bonnet Peppers.
While I am trying to kill the burn from the first mouthful with a bucket of Red Stripe he is spicing his up with some extra Grandma's Jamaican Pepper Sauce.
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Ellie's Dad's Second-Favorite Snack:
- 1 can crescent rolls
- 1 can deviled ham
- copious amounts of shredded cheese (one of those "melting blends" is best; cheddar works if you're desperate)
Preheat oven according to directions on can of crescent rolls. Open can and spread out rolls; smear with deviled ham and sprinkle with as much cheese as it can hold. Fold them up into pouches, being careful to pinch the edges closed so the cheese doesn't run out when it melts. Put into oven and bake slightly less than time indicated on can.
So cheap and college student friendly, so totally not vegan, and so fantastically good when you're drunk.
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Could you use a real meat instead?
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix
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Damn Jadagul,
That coconut milk idea is brilliant!! As a side note, I find that most bean dishes (particularly when cooked with a smoked meat product for flavor) seem to taste better the next day. So, in the case of red-beans and rice, I just cook the beans up at my leisure a day or two in advance and the rice right before I am ready to eat.
Meats: Ham hocks work well for RB&R too. If andouille is an acquired taste then I acquired it right off the bat.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I have done something similar with ham/cream cheese as well as hot-dogs.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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It may just be that I'm lazy but I find the crockpot is ideal for cooking beans. That way they can be cooking all day and ready when I get home from work.
By the way, I assume everyone knows that you sould not add any tomatoes* to your beans before they are cooked. It slows down the cooking considerably and they will never soften completely.
*or other acidic ingredients. I'll post my black bean chili recipe which uses orange juice when I have time.
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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I need to think of a way to work whiskey into one of these dishes.
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix
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Actually, I was thinking of adding sausage to my rice and beans. Timothy makes me wonder if I should add beer to the pot while simmering.
"the only thing worse than a freeper is a blue state freeper that doesn't realize they're a freeper." -dhex
hoisted by their own waterboard!
-dhex
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No whiskey(or whisky) but I have a good one that capitalizes on beer.
This is fantastic when piled in a bowl with red beans spooned over it. My step-mom traditionally made this with the wings but thanks to the popularity of "buffalo-style" I have opted for the less expensive "family-pack" of thighs for this. I probably under estimated the amount of herbage since I usually do this by eye so please feel free to play around with it. If you want it warmer, a 1/4tsp of red pepper flakes would probably wake it up nicely.
EDIT: The Bud thing was a joke, though MGD has enough flavor that it works well. I have also used Sam Adams, Alaskan Amber and (I think) Flying Dog IPA and they all turned out okay. Obviously you will want to have at least three beers on hand before starting this, two for the pot and one for you.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I have added beer to my chili while the whole thing was cooking. Issac's warning about acid and beans is well founded and I add my tomatoes after the beans are soft but I believe that beer is either a)basic or b)doesn't have enough acid to effect the softening process as I have never noticed a problem with adding it early on.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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i will post my surprisingly delicious onion and garlic free quasi-chili recipie here later on.
you know what i love though? chicken and chili paste concoctions. you can use coconut milk, you can just use the chili paste, or you can do it with chili paste and white wine which is also really nice. add some water chestnuts and peanuts and you have a day of it.
"Yeah, but my character would be all swav and deboner." - Warren
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dhex,
That sounds intriguing. I have never used chili paste (unless Thai green curry paste counts) in my cooking, what brand/type would you recommend?
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Could you give me the specifics of how you do this? I have tried soaking and cooking beans about a hundred different ways, and they've never turned out soft for me.
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Beer is acidic, although not terribly so. About on the same level as acid rain or tomato juice, apparently.
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So I realized that I omitted a critical part of the recipe: bay leaves and thyme.
I've edited the recipe, but if you haven't tried the extra spices then go ahead. They make a difference.
Isaac: exactly. I don't have a crockpot, but that's basically what my mother does with putting them on at 2 and then they're ready around seven.
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On Monday, I tried making the recipe I posted above, but I substituted kidney beans for the ground turkey. I've made it before, so I did all the right prep for the beans and cooked everything properly. However, it turned out very, very bitter and not particularly spicy. I have no idea what I did wrong, but it's barely edible. I'm tempted to buy some bacon or something to try to save the leftovers, but I have the feeling that I'll simply be wasting the bacon and I should just throw out the leftovers. Even though I don't like to waste food, it's hard to justify saving something this awful.
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um, i get this shit from the local health food gourmet store but i've seen it in supermarkets. dark red label, black lid, very small jar. it's a bit oily so i spread it out and mix it first before applying. it's sweet and what i'd call a mild spicy but others might disagree.
it's very good on chicken, with tofu, shit man with a lot of stuff. some things, like curry pastes and chili pastes, i just can't be arsed to make for myself, you know?
"Yeah, but my character would be all swav and deboner." - Warren
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12 oz. center-cut bacon
1 lb. navy beans, soaked overnight
4 celery stalks
4 large carrots
1 small onion
2 5.5 oz cans tomato juice
2 tsp red pepper flakes
Drain beans and place in crockpot. Fry bacon and place in crockpot, leaving grease in skillet. Saute celery, carrots, and onion in the grease and then add to crockpot. Add water, leaving about two inches free (measured from top; about 5 cups for my 5-quart model). Cook for 8 hours on high. Add tomato juice and red pepper flakes and cook for an additional 30 minutes.
Result: ridiculously delicious. The beans ended up very soft, and using center-cut bacon gave it strong ham flavors in addition to bacon flavors. I'll use more vegetables next time, but it already makes Campbell's look like dog food.
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Last night I kind of failed at a pan sauce (I made one bad substitution) but it made me think of how I could combine a couple of different recipes into something totally delicious. I will post that later today or tomorrow because I have to look up the sauce.
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix
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I made up this recipe for stuffed mushrooms, and it was pretty well received so I thought I'd post it here. The stuffing might work well for clams or shrimp, too.
2pkgs Baby Portabella mushrooms
1/3 lb of prosciutto
8oz pkg of cream cheese, softened
2/3 cup of grated romano or parmesan cheese
1 shallot, thinly sliced
1 clove of garlic, minced
2 tbsp butter
unflavored breadcrumbs
A few dashes of worcestershire sauce
A few ounces of red wine
Preheat oven to 350. Remove the stems from the mushrooms, and widen the cavity with a paring knife if necessary. Cook the garlic and shallots over medium heat until translucent. Add about a 1/4 cup of breadcrumbs and brown. Remove from heat and set aside. Finely dice the prosciutto and lightly fry. Drain the excess fat and set aside. Using a mixer, thoroughly combine the prosciutto, garlic/shallot/breadcrumb mix with the cream cheese and parmesan. Spoon the stuffing into the mushroom caps, then roll the stuffed portion in breadcrumb to give it a nice crust. Arrange the mushrooms in a baking dish, adding the worcestershire sauce and wine to the bottom (this will soak into the mushrooms as they cook). Sprinkle olive oil over the tops of mushrooms and bake uncovered until golden brown (about 20-25 minutes).
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tymac,
Now that sounds like a chunk of fungi heaven there.
A real simple one that I have used before is simply mushrooms cleaned and stemmed filled with Gorgonzola or other blue cheese, baked for 30 mins or until the cheese is well melted. The flavorful oils from the cheese seeps into the mush caps and it is like pure goodness in an edible package. If you need to stretch the cheese I have chopped and sauteed the stems, then mixed them with the cheese before stuffing.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I don't know about Isaac, but when I use my crockpot for making dried-bean soups, all I do is rinse off the dried beans, put them in the crock-pot, add water, and then turn the pot on high.
I don't actually add the spices, sausages, or any other flavorings (except a couple of bouillon cubes) until about half an hour before I finish cooking. The good thing about that is that you end up with leftovers that taste even better than the fresh meals, which makes you feel not-bad about bringing leftover bean soup to work.
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RE: Beans
Alton Brown's take on them.
In essence:
Soak the beans
4 hours for Black Turtle or small white navy beans, overnight for all others. Do not soak longer than 12 hours as this results in mushy beans.
Speed soaking is okay (boil for a minute, soak for 4 hours) but alters the texture of the beans. I suspect this is why mine seem tough.
Cooking the Beans
Cook low and slow, don't boil. Add salt after half an hour of simmering and avoid acids(tomatoes) and sugars(molasses) until the beans are soft. Unless of course you add either an acid or sugar early on, then salt is okay right up front. Read the link for the science behind this.
Cook them in as little water as you can. Too much water removes the structural proteins holding them together -- mushy beans is the result.
Well, that's about it. I have yet to put much of this advice to practice since discovering it, but since Mr. Brown does far more cooking than I, I will take his advice.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Just did a "Smoked Pork Butt" sans the smoking portion. I suppose I could have smoked it but I didn't really feel like being tied down to tending the firebox in the middle of winter. Anyhoo, it acutually turned out pretty good. Not pit BBQ style mind you, but nummy none the less and it'll make great sammiches. I will list what I did and then what I would do differently.
(1) 5-6lb Pork Butt Roast (boston, blade, shoulder, etc.) bone-in.
apple juice or other flavorful liquid for a brine
kosher salt
dark brown sugar
Dijon/brown mustard paste
garlic cloves sliced into 1/8" wide slivers
chipotle powder
liquid smoke (hickory)
Prep Time: 24 hours
Cook Time:8-10 hours
Brine:
Take the pork and place it into a vessel big enough for it to be covered with brine by at least an inch. The smaller this vessel is, the less brine you have to make to cover the meat.
Pour water in the vessel to cover the meat by an inch. Remove the meat and measure the water to determine how much brine you have to make. Place the meat back in the vessel.
To make the brine you add 1/4c kosher salt and 1/4c brown sugar to every four cups of your "flavorful liquid" (total amount determined above). Mix well then pour over the meat. Let this sit in your refrigerator for at least 8 hours, I like to go 12-16 personally. After the required amount of time, remove the pork and discard the brine.
Cookin':
Take the pork and poke holes in it about 1" deep and about 2" apart all over.
Take the garlic slivers and stuff one into each hole.
Mix 1/4c brown sugar, 1/4c Dijon Mustard and 2tbs chipotle powder together.
Rub this mixture over the pork.
Place pork into a slow cooker (crock pot) on low for 8 hours.
When the 8hours are up, check the roast by moving the bone (you did get bone-in, right?). If it's (mostly)loose, the meat is done.
If not, put it on for another hour and check again.
Crusting:
Now, here is where I ran into trouble. Unlike spit roasting/slow smoking when you cook the roast in the crock pot the juices have nowhere to go so they pool around the meat. This helps cook it but naturally it washes off the brown sugar / mustard glaze. So, to correct this is the procedure below.
Pre-heat the oven to 350F.
Take the meat out of the slow cooker and place it on a broiling pan or other raised rack.
If you want, save the juices for something else (stock, soup, spicy gravy).
Re-make the mustard/brown sugar mixture adding in 1tsp of liquid smoke and slather the pork with it. I didn't add the chipotle this time and was glad for it.
Place the pork into the oven for about an hour or until the outer surface is very dry and not at all moist to the touch.
Pull the roast out, cover with foil and let rest for 15 minutes.
Grab two forks and shred it like Sweeney Todd. Serve alongside of a cauliflower gratin or maybe just cole slaw and white bread.
Review:
It wasn't bad. Very tender, somewhat smoky, pretty spicy and the crust was darned tasty. It isn't hard to do, just takes a bit of prep time, a bit of scheduling and a somewhat flexible dining schedule due to the variability of the roast doneness. I'd rather wait an extra hour to eat than have meat mush due to it being in the pot hours longer than necessary.
What I'd Change:
Next time I would smoke it. Hehe.
Seriously, I would halve the amount of chipotle in first batch of glaze and add it to the second. I would also add a bit of black pepper to the glaze mixture. I would rethink the amount of garlic, or perhaps the size. While the garlic slivers dissolved the flavor was a bit pungent. If you were slathering this in sauce or something I don't think it would matter one bit but as is, I dunno.
BTW, for those of you wondering why in the hell I didn't do this in my oven to begin with the answer is, ovens can't cook low enough. Traditional smoke house temps are 180-220F. The lowest setting mine can do is 250F and the temperature swing it goes through is more like 180-300F. Not good enough. I fear that the outside would become toast long before the middle was tender. Not to mention, the expense of heating an entire oven for 12 hours vs. a crock pot.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Since I mentioned it in my post above: Cauliflower Gratin
This is just like any other gratin. Take veggies, cover is bechemel sauce, top with cheese and bread crumbs and bake.
This is good for Ovo-lacto vegetarians but not vegans. Of course I have to ask, if you are vegan what pleasure do you have in life?
Pre-heat oven to 375F
Veggies:
3lbs (or enough to cover a single layer of a 9X13 baking dish) of your choice of mild flavored vegetables.
Cauliflower, Broccoli / Broccolini, Zucchini, Yellow Squash, etc.
Cut into large bite sized pieces.
Boil harder veggies (broccoli, cauliflower) in water for 3-6 minutes until cooked yet firm.
Make sure all veggies are at least room temperature before adding to casserole.
Sauce:
4Tbs butter or olive oil
3Tbs all-purpose flour
2Cups whole milk
1/2tsp salt
1/2tsp fresh ground pepper (white if you got it)
1/4tsp fresh grated nutmeg
1/2Cup grated softish cheese (gruyere, fontina, aged mozzerela, medium cheddar, etc.).
1/2Cup grated hard, aged, brined cheese (Pecorino-Romano, Parmigiano-Reggiano, etc.)
Melt the butter over low heat (or heat up the olive oil if using it) in a pan large enough to accomodate the milk and cheese to com. Once the butter is melted, stir in the flour and cook for 1-2 minutes being careful not to brown it.
To the flour, add the milk all at once. If you heat the milk first (say two minutes in a microwave) the sauce will thicken quicker but it's not necessary.
Raise the heat to medium and stir constantly until the mixture boils. Stir while boiling for one minute until sauce is thickened.
Remove from heat and stir in the salt, pepper, nutmeg and cheeses. Stir until the cheese is melted.
Ladle half of the sauce into your casserole or baking dish.
Add the vegetables in a single layer.
Pour the other half of your sauce over the veggies.
Topping:
1/2Cup of whatever softish cheese you used in the sauce.
1/4Cup bread crumbs
Mix the cheese and bread crumbs together, then sprinkle over the gratin.
Bake in the oven for 30-45mins or until the bread crumbs are brown and the middle of the gratin is bubbling.
Serve hot or room temperature.
Review: This dish is very mild but is a wonderful palette for flavors. If you are serving something spicy or robust you may want to kick this up a bit by adding herbs or perhaps a sharper cheese.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Well, there's....no, that has beef in it.
Of course, they could be into.....no, that needs leather.
I guess taking a nice, long shit must be the only thing left.
EDIT TO ADD: American Spirit Lights. Gawd, do they ever love the Spirits.
"Hey, any chance to show off my eru — erudi — my book learnin'." - David L. Watkins
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Ya, dot's a good idea. Yoo probably couldn't find dem rolling paypers big enough anyvays. [/Sven]
The other night I had an impromptu dinner with friends, and one of them was a vegetarian, so we looked through some cookbooks to find a good recipe, and ended up making "Mushroom Ragout with Polenta", IIRC. I can't reproduce the recipe exactly, since I don't have it in front of me, but it was dead simple. And despite my skepticism about vegetarian food, it was damn good.
Take a big yellow onion, mushrooms of various kinds, garlic, a good-sized carrot, and some celery. Mince the garlic fine and slice the mushrooms; chop everything else into 1/4" cubes. Sauté the onions in some butter until they're just turning translucent, then add the garlic, carrot, and celery, plus salt and pepper to taste. Sauté until everything is cooked through. Separately, sauté the mushrooms until liquid has stopped coming off them. Then combine everything with vegetable or mushroom broth and let it simmer down to a good stew-like consistency. Prepare the polenta while this is going on. When both are done, put the polenta in bowls and serve the ragout over it. Simple and damn tasty.
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I may just have to try that JD. Any additional herbage, or just the mirepoix?
EDIT: I hate BBcode for it's inability to allow legal HREFs that include () or {}
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I'm sorry Ellie, I really meant to respond, but I kept putting it off.
Jennifer gets it about right. The only difference is that I use the low setting and cook for anywhere from eight to sixteen hours. Four hours at high setting should get all but the toughest shells. I prefer to simmer for longer on the low setting. I have this curious superstition that vigorously boiling beans ruins them. Probably not well-founded but there nonetheless.
As previously noted by others, do not add acids or sugars until the beans are cooked and tender*. My general caution is that if you add acids (tomatoes or citrus - some day I will post my Brazilian Black Bean Chili, which uses copious amount of orange juice) you will toughen the beans beyond recovery, so don't do it at all. On the other hand sugars seem to just add cooking time. So, for example, adding coconut milk to your red or black beans just means you need to get everything in the pot before you go to bed the night before instead of in the morning before you go to work.
Now I'm getting ready to sit down to a New Years Eve dinner of Black-Eyed Peas cooked in the crock pot with a couple of carrots, two bay leaves, some celery (2 sticks) with the leafy heads, some smoked pork neck bones, some garlic and two jalapeno peppers that were scored but not diced and then discarded, along with everything but the meat from the neck bones over some cooked brown rice.
Yummmm, Yummmmm!!!
Happy New Year, Ya'll!!!
*Note: there are some beans that some prefer somewhat crunchy or chewy. Far be it from me to try to overrule that preference, especially since I hold it as well (I just don't have time to go through all the varieties of legumes to delineate the preferred consistency). Indeed, I am very big on the experimental or empirical school of cooking. Food is good because you like it, not because some authority says it is. Mind you I have the philosophy with wine as well (and there are many who consider me a heretic on that count too).
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Oh, and speaking of good recipes, I tried to find thoreau's recipe for stuffed peppers at the old grylliade site but couldn't.
So, Doc, could you post that one again, or do I fail the class because I wasn't paying attention.
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Issac,
The link to the old recipe thread is here.
Dr. T's is the first on the list but I will repost it:
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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That's why God gave us pleather! Mmm, vegan bondage.
Plus, with all the fiber, we get frequent nice long shits.
Thanks for the bean cooking tips, Jennifer and Isaac. I can't wait to get home and try them.
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I don't think there was anything else, but ICBW. We kind of divided up the tasks, and I was on carrot and onion duty. There might have been some sage or something.
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Sorry for not posting the stuffed pepper recipe. I rarely check this folder. Here's a recipe for awesome beef:
Braised Beef With Cinnamon
3-4 lb rump roast
1 tbsp cinnamon
1 tbsp garlic powder
1 tsp salt
1 tsp pepper
1 tsp ground cloves
1 tsp dried oregano
olive oil
1 large sweet onion
3 medium tomatoes
6 oz tomato paste
1 cup red wine
2 tbsp red wine vinegar
In a small bowl, mix the cinnamon, garlic powder, cloves, salt, and pepper. Cut deep slits into the roast, and rub the spice mixture into the slits.
In a skillet with a little olive oil, sear the roast over high heat on all sides until lightly browned. Place in crock pot.
Chop the onion fine, and cook in a skillet with olive oil until slightly tender. Add chopped tomatoes and cook a few more minutes. Mix in tomato paste and red wine, and add to crock pot with meat. Add enough water so that meat is almost covered.
Cook on High until meat is tender and pieces can be easily peeled off with a fork. (In my crock pot, that turned out to be a little more than 5 hours.)
When meat is done, remove from crock pot. Place in dish, pour red wine vinegar over it, and cover dish.
Pour sauce from crock pot into a large skillet, and reduce over high heat until thickened.
Serve sliced beef with sauce over couscous.
Oh, and I should add that although it’s almost impossible to burn the meat in the slow cooker when it’s immersed in sauce, Bill Kristol did manage to burn beef when he tried this recipe.
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hoisted by their own waterboard!
-dhex
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Dr. T,
This is very fortuitous as I have a 4lb roast that is thawing in the fridge as I type. Actually, it will probably be ready to go by this PM. Nifty. I may just have to make my way to the house and start processing this roast on my lunch break.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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Didn't Bill Kristol try to use a slow cooker to make Baked Alaska?
"My intellect is gigantic, monstrous, terrifying."
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On the same day as Doctor T's Braised Beef With Cinnamon I left a pot roast cooking.
The beef was a small Bottom Round Roast but it had been in my freezer forever and even showed some signs of freezer burn so I decided it was time to eat it but I didn't have the time or inclination to do an oven roast.
My cooking is much more primitive and spontaneous than thoreau's just:
2lb roast plust the remains of another 2lb roast that I had sliced a pound or so off of to make fajitas.
1 can of Guinness Draft (one of those 16ozzers with the fizzer thingummy)
2 cups of tomato juice
2 carrots cut up
2 medium potatoes cut up
about 2/3 of a medium onion sliced
6 (or so) garlic cloves
handful of dried parsley
bunch of chipotle BBQ sauce that I have in the fridge (can't remember brand name)
Cut up veg and spuds the night before and put in fridge. Threw whole mess in crockpot (on low) before I left for work (early morning, probably wouldn't have put in as much liquid if I was thinking clearer - maybe only one cup of tomato juice).
It was falling apart ready when I got home at 7:15 PM. All the flavors came through nicely. Ate more than I should have and put leftovers in plastic containers in fridge. Saved liquid for a soup or maybe just to use if beef stock is called for.
Things tend to get cooked in whatever is currently being drunk Chez Isaac. In this case the whole can got used because I ordinarily am not drinking at 0630 on weekdays.
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Tonight I had to make Cincinnati-style chili, since a couple people had taken it upon themselves to run me down the other night. Five-way all the way!
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As a migrant to the greater Cincinnati area, I can affirm that the so-called chili they serve locally is a blight on the culinary landscape. I'm not opposed to the idea of using chili as a pasta sause per se, I honestly believe there are possibilities there, but the sickly sweet wet slop they use ... shudder.
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Actually, it sounded kinda good to me...until Jason said "sweet".
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Hrrm,
I see that not only is it as wrong as I thought, it isn't really chili either, being sweeter and runnier than real chili.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I knew nothing billing itself as "Cincinnati-style" could be good.
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See, here's the deal, whenever I hear "Cincinnati-style chili", I ask "Who the fuck puts fucking CHOCOLATE in fucking chili? I mean, as PJ O'Rourke (an Ohioan if ever there was one) might say "Who the fuck, who the fucking fuck?"
I am not young enough to know everything.
— Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Actually, there's good, proper, award-winning Tex-Mex-style chili that includes a bit of cocoa to impart flavor and affect color.
It does not, however, taste sweet.
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Waitasecond, there is chocolate in Cincinnati-style chili? I always just thought it was dog food over spaghetti, but if chocolate is involved, I may have to give this "Cincinnati chili" another look.
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My grandmother (who grew up in the North) makes what she calls "Yankee chili", which to be perfectly frank is a tomato-heavy vegetable soup with an equal or greater amount of ground beef. While tasty, it's not even a stew, much less chili, and as for spiciness... Well, if you've ever read The Gallery of Regrettable Foods, the situation is much like James Lilek's description of 50s "Mexican" recipes from white-bread cook-books, where at some point, you carefully wave an atom from a chili pepper over the food. :)
Again, however, it is not sweet. :D
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Yes, unsweetened cocoa powder adds a fantastic depth of flavor to chili. I also want to make chili with beer sometime, I just never have it on hand.
(Incidentally, while seitan has a taste that's too distinctive and non-meatlike to really work in most of what people try to use it for, I've made a cumin/tomato/smoke-heavy version of seitan that was just heaven in a spicy chili.)
I confess that after seeing the Good Eats where he makes gumbo, I really want to try it. (NOT VEGAN!) Although after seeing those shrimp with the heads still on, I refuse to ever eat anything with shrimp again. They're like aliens! Ugh!
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Does it help that it's (usually) unsweetened chocolate? Think of mole.
And boo to all the haters! It makes me wish I had some goetta for breakfast. For those who don't know, it's kind of like a sausage, only made out of pin oats and chopped pork heart. WHAT? YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? COME ON! SAY SOMETHING, I DARE YOU!
EDIT: changed 'port heart' to 'pork heart'.
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I'll say something. What's a port heart? Even if you mean a pork heart, it sounds horrible.
EDIT: Under no circumstances is JD to choose the restaurant for our next gathering.
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i make chili with beer. the more molasses-y the better. guiness works, oatmeal stouts work, etc.
i know purists would say it's not chili and it's not but my wife can't eat garlic and as sad as that makes me i can at least do a reasonable facsimile. it's good with corn and carrots and green beans in it! plus i can always dump more chili powder and cayenne on mine.
nothing will replace garlic though. when she goes off on academic trips and whatnot i buy a can of red curry paste, some chicken, some water chestnuts and a whole bunch of garlic and i make something so spicy it actually hurts to eat. yum.
next trip is in april.
"Yeah, but my character would be all swav and deboner." - Warren
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Yes, I meant pork heart. I'll just have to find something that doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities, apparently! Velveeta on Wonder Bread for you. :-P
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I'd easily eat the pork heart before I'd willingly eat either velveeta or white bread. It might be pretty good if you stuffed the ventricles with Parmesan cheese and pesto, then breaded and fried it, and topped it with a nice cream sauce.
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I've seen years of movies where bug-headed aliens feast upon human prey. It's time to turn the tables, Ellie!
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Ooh, nice dodge as you try to escape the collective shame of calling some sweet pasta sauce "chili". :D
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I've been assuming that this is nationwide, but maybe it's just regional: 'round these here parts, you can put chili over spaghetti and it's called "chili mac." ("Mac" being short for "macaroni" as a generic term for noodle.) The chili used is conventional chili -- around here, that includes both meat and beans, with various other variable ingredients, and thickish. Not sweet. It might have chopped onions and/or shredded cheese on top.
They serve it at Steak 'n' Shake.
I think I had sweetish tomato sauce on spaghetti once ... didn't prefer it.
"My intellect is gigantic, monstrous, terrifying."
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Chili with cocoa (or unsweetened chocolate) is pretty descent, it adds a bit of complexity and bitterness to it that I like. I also have thrown a bit of molasseses in mine from time to time, usually to counteract some of the acid from the tomatoes. Hrrm, on second thought maybe this Cincinnati Style stuff might not be too bad, except that it come from Cincinnati and is served over pasta.
Now, that pin oat and pork heart sausage sounds right up my avenue. Toss it in a sheep's bladder and you got the makings of some fine haggis or boudin.
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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goetta is frikkin' good, and that's no lie
It's the only thing Cincinnati does right.
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I, too, would be down with that hearty/porky goetta sausage.
"My intellect is gigantic, monstrous, terrifying."
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Tymac - So your objection is to...oats? Oats with your hearts?
Eric the .5b - I don't get no respect! Hey, I like regular chili too. Best one I ever had was in Phoenix and used shredded goat. But I will also stand up for Cincinnati-style as a valid food in its own right...haters!
Kwix - I dunno if I want to eat anything that's had piss in it. Sheep's piss, no less. But thanks for your support.
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Restaurant? If so, what one?
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OK, I'm curious. Are you using a canned type, or do you have a recipe? I'm vaguely inclined to try to make/prepare some.
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But Uric acid adds a piquant flavor that is unobtainable any other way!
"Still, though, being fat isn't some kind of moral failing. Unless you're fat from, like, eating the people you murder...then it's probably a moral failing of one sort or another." -- Timothy
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I'm pretty sure the sheep's bladder is well scrubbed out.
Besides, what are traditional sausage casings made of?
I think I heard about that. Worst goat/wind tunnel accident in Arizona history.
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My last ex girlfriend was constantly trying to convince me that chili is a soup and that the chili I made should've 1) had beans in it and 2) been much thinner. She was from Minnesota, what the fuck do they know about food with actual flavors?
Whenever I catch so much as a glimpse of pr0n, I suddenly turn into a sex-crazed barbarian, slashing and clawing my way through whatever and whomever until I find something to put my weiner into. -- Taktix
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Andrew - well, I had the chili at a chili festival, but I think it was from a restaurant. A big one? On top of a hill somewhere in the south? Real helpful, I know.
Eric - I've been using canned, jazzed up a little with spices, because I'm lazy, but there are a bunch of decent recipes around if you google. My main criterion, though, is that you really have to use the onions and beans and cheese. I mean, technically you can do without them, but it's just not the same.
Timothy - Beans, yes. I like beans. But soup?